[BLDG-SIM] Invitation to Participate - Getting the Design Tea m to Use Energy Simulation from the Beginning

[Mona Fanni]

Dear Prof.Eolsen
Dear BLDG-SIM GRoup
Greetings
I agree with your openions; Prof. DR. Eoslen by
hundred per cent,and put them as my openion and my
reply  for the "BLDG-SIM" gard qeuestions with my some
illustrations . So,it is the time to put the things in
their right places . The demostration is very
essential to narrow the gab between the researches and
the practise as announced before last Chicago meeting
;Or, it is the actual process of R&D in the field of
Building and Energy or Building and Environments .
So,the demonstration beside the research project for
integration and for measurring or understanding on the
design and structure elements' activations with the
physical parameters as an analytical and experimental
servey .So, I with Prof. DR. Ahmed shouman ;ENERGy
SYSTEMS in NEW MExico in USA ,have a complete
integration design and we could do the demonstration
as a project in both USA and in Egypt, as Cairo lies
on 30 Lat and also Las CRuce in USA and this practise
in these two loctions will showed the differences and
requirements of applications and the handling view due
to that at these different cities,and enhances the
openion giving by some -as Mr. J. Deringer- for the
requirements in developing countries - through the
discussion about a project given by USA Assoisated
engineering for TC2.8 - as I remembered- So, If we
could funded to carry this demonstration as an
application and surveying project of researches to
stand on the exact needs of all works and their
related connections in the developing building field.
if there are a proplem in getting  land to build these
deonstrations , there are land could introduce for
that in Cairo -egypt and other could introduce in Las
cruce in USA  by PRof. DR. Ahmed Shouman ; that is to
enable the valuable works lines in their correct ways.
Thanks alot for all
Dr.Mona Ahmed Mohaned Fanny
Building and Environments
Cairo-Egypt
FAx; 202 3351564 Tel{ 202 3356853-3356722 
       
--- "Olsen, Erik" <eolsen at owpp.com> wrote:
> I am unable to make the Kansas City meeting, so I am
> emailing my response as
> requested.  
> 
>     1.    The most important or critical items that
> we need to discuss and
> try to reach consensus in our meeting at Kansas
> City.
> 
> I have two points to discuss:
> 
> a) I hope that the we can avoid using the term
> "Building Simulation" as a
> substitute for "Energy Simulation." I believe it is
> important embrace the
> larger class of building simulation tools (CFD,
> network airflow models,
> daylighting analysis, etc.), as mentioned at the
> beginning at some of the
> presentations from the January ASHRAE meeting.
> Although I understand the
> committee is termed "Energy Calculations," if the
> final goal is to see these
> tools used in practice, they cannot be approached in
> isolation. Although
> energy simulation is perhaps the most commonly used
> tool, and is clearly
> very powerful, if we view the project form a
> designer's perspective, the
> question is "What tools can I use to improve my
> design?" (and be sure it
> will perform as intended). Sometimes energy
> simulation provides the answer,
> sometimes another type of simulation may provide the
> answer.
> 
> b) My impression is that there is currently much
> focus on the technical
> barriers to integration in the design process,
> especially improving
> interoperability and interfaces.  Although these are
> important and worthy
> efforts, perhaps a large problem is process barrier.
>  I sense that most of
> the architectural design community won't integrate
> these tools into the
> early design process until they understand what they
> can really do, and
> especially that it makes designs that wouldn't have
> been possible without
> out them possible.  If you're just talking about
> optimizing a few
> architectural details, or the building orientation,
> or the mechanical
> systems, you may have a hard time finding an
> architect that is interested,
> especially in the early design stages (even if these
> are all great things to
> do).  However, if you can explore a design concept
> that you couldn't before,
> because you can demonstrate that it actually works,
> then the story may be
> different. If we can demonstrate the power of
> building simulation tools to
> allow truly innovative designs, then perhaps demand
> will increase. If the
> demand exists, perhaps the technical problems
> mentioned above can be solved
> more quickly.
> 
>     3.    The most important actions or programs our
> committee should get
> ASHRAE to implement in the longer term (1 to 5
> years)  This could well
> include research projects.
> 
> OK, so what do you do about it? Well I have one
> concept that I will throw
> out, which may not fall into the normal ASHRAE
> funding pot, but I want to at
> least share the idea. This is what you might call a
> 'Modeler in Residence'
> program (thanks to Mike Witte for coining the term).
> In order to demonstrate
> what can be done, you provide funding for someone to
> work in-house at an
> architecture or architecture/engineering firm. The
> Modeler in Residence
> would identify opportunities within existing
> projects to apply building
> simulation tools, essentially working as an
> externally funded member of the
> design team. Hopefully most of the work performed
> makes an actual impact on
> the design, but even if not, the goal is to
> demonstrate this process and the
> its product to the design team (and the client).
> 
> These are my thought on this issue - I don't claim
> to know all the issues
> involved, or have all the answers, but I hope that
> this provides valuable
> input for further discussion.
> 
> Erik Olsen
> OWP/P Engineers
> HVAC / Energy Consulting
> 111 West Washington Street, Suite 2100
> Chicago, Illinois 60602-2714
> 312.960.8313 Direct
> 312.827.8313 Fax
> eolsen at owpp.com
>  
> 
> 
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