[BLDG-SIM] Certified Energy Engineer or Professional

[Jon McHugh]

To the building sim community:
 
I am in agreement with Chris that the PE license is a more rigorous
certification than the CEM.  I let my CEM lapse after getting a PE in
Mechanical Engineering.  However, there are many people in this field
who are in the energy efficiency field who are not engineers and thus
will never obtain a PE.  
 
Frankly there are many positions in the energy efficiency field that
don't require a PE license.  As an example, a good lighting designer is
often more qualified than a PE to suggest an appropriate lighting
upgrade that improves visibility and energy efficiency.
 
The CEM test helps AEE sell the CEM course which gives people a good
rudimentary "lay of the land" of the big issues associated with energy
efficiency.  For some people this course will be too basic but for many
others, it is a good introduction to the field.
 
This course is worthwhile but does not replace an engineering degree and
work experience or a lighting design education and work experience.  
 
The bottom line is that when hiring an energy professional one has to
look at their relevant experience and if they are going to be doing a
lot of work or recommending a large expenditure, it would be worthwhile
to talk to their previous clients.
 
Jon McHugh, PE, LC

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From: postman at gard.com [mailto:postman at gard.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Halpin
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 8:14 AM
To: BLDG-SIM at gard.com
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Certified Energy Engineer or Professional


I agree with Tom. I am a PE, a Certified Energy Procurement Professional
through the AEE, and a LEED accredited professional by the US Green
Building Council. I have never pursued the CEM because I felt its value
was not very high. As Tom said, there are CEMs out there with very
little knowledge of real world energy efficiency practices.  In my
opinion the PE registration has much greater value, as it requires
rigorous testing and minimum experience criteria to achieve
registration. Although there PEs out there who are not particularly
talented engineers, the credibility of a PE is greater than that of a
CEM in the energy business.
 
I hope this is helpful. If you are new to the business, I encourage you
to pursue the CEM anyway, as it can not hurt to have it. 
 
Chris 
 
Christopher F. Halpin, P.E., LEED, C.E.P.
President
Celtic Energy, Inc.
202 Lancaster Road
Glastonbury, CT 06033-5100
(860) 633-4914
(860) 633-3056 fax
(860) 328-0535 mobile 
chris at celticenergy.com
www.celticenergy.com
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: postman at gard.com [mailto:postman at gard.com] On Behalf Of Ahmed
Fraij
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 5:14 AM
To: BLDG-SIM at gard.com
Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Certified Energy Engineer or Professional
 
Dear All,
 
   Do you know which organizations and/or associations can give
certification for energy engineers or professionals? for instance:
certified energy engineer or energy accredited professional particularly
for engineers who work in energy management & conservation fields.
 
Awaiting your reply
 
Thanks & Best Regards
 
Ahmad Fraij
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