[Bldg-sim] FW: Issues with IES and Revit

Ken Hall ken_hall at gensler.com
Tue May 6 08:43:33 PDT 2008


Oops- Forget to copy the entire list... ken

 

From: Ken Hall 
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 8:09 AM
To: 'CARNEY Ronan'
Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] Issues with IES and Revit

 

Ronan,

 

When creating Revit models for the purpose of gbXML, develop a separate
model for this specific purpose. Standard punched openings work better
than curtain walls, but check and see if aligning the curtain walls with
the centerline of their "host" wall will help. Always model external
shades as standard roof elements and make sure one edge aligns with the
centerline of the "host wall".  As for the disappearing room-
investigate it very carefully and you will likely find some oddity in
the connections of the bounding elements that is causing the "hiccup".
For all of these reasons- the normal Revit architecture or mechanical
models will usually not work for the purpose of creating valid gbXML.
Test it early and often as you build it up a gbXML optimized Revit
model.  You are fortunate to have full <VE> because you may still have
to make final corrections in it.

 

HTH

Ken

 

                                                    
Ken Hall, AIA, LEED AP, CSBA
Manager of Sustainable Design Systems
971.212.4354  Direct
415.433.3700  Main
                                                     
Gensler 
2 Harrison Street
Suite 400
San Francisco California 94105
USA

 

 

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of CARNEY
Ronan
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:23 PM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Issues with IES and Revit

 

 

Dear all, 

I am currently working on a project where I've to model energy, thermal
and daylight analysis on a very large building. I'm using the link
between Revit MEP2008 and IES. I've also got the full licence for IES's
applications. 

However, when I import the model into IES several issues and problems
occur that I require help with, they are as follows;

1) Some windows disappear. These windows are made up as curtain walls.
Now most of the windows in the model are done the same way but a
particular few disappear, troublesome.

2) External shading devices disappear. These are modelled as a
speciality family. I've tried them previously as windows and they don't
work. I would like to use them as a wall family but due to the
architects 3D modelling procedures and the complexity of the model, we
can't. 

3) One of my rooms is disappearing. Claims it has no bounding elements.
But it has 6 bounding elements (walls, ceiling & floor). 

4) Internal light shelf becomes a "floor" leaving the space reshaped and
obscure. 

 

I'd appreciate any help on the matters and am willing to share my
knowledge to help others. I'm very versed with these issues so please,
don't be cheeky and recommend Autodesk's White Papers on BIM or energy
modelling as I've read them. There is also a detailed discussion about
this on Autodesk's forum
http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?forumID=188&threadID=626566
<http://discussion.autodesk.com/thread.jspa?forumID=188&threadID=626566>


Regards,
Ronan Carney
Electrical Engineer
Project Services
* Level 5B 80 George St Brisbane
( Ph: (07) 3224 5983
2 Fax: (07) 3224 6151
,Email: Ronan.Carney at projectservices.qld.gov.au
<mailto:Ronan.Carney at projectservices.qld.gov.au>  

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