[Bldg-sim] Therapy Pool Simulation

[Bishop, Bill]

Larry,
 
I've modeled a natatorium in TRACE but it shouldn't be a problem in
eQUEST. The pool is a latent load on the space and also a water heating
load. You will need to know/select the water temperature, space
temperature, space humidity and ventilation rate. I suggest using the
ASHRAE Handbook - Applications p4.6 for guidance, as well as product
literature for natatorium air handling systems. For water heating, you
will have to make up the latent load as well as account for
emptying/refilling the pool for regular cleaning.
 
Regards,
Bill
 
William Bishop, EIT, LEED(r) AP | Pathfinder Engineers & Architects LLP
Mechanical Engineer
 
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Haberl
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:29 PM
To: 'lasmith_architect.leed at yahoo.com'; 'bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org'
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Therapy Pool Simulation
 
FYI. 

We tried to simulate this back in 1985 with DOE-2 by forcing the loads
to equal measured amounts and got somewhat close. Measured data included
the pool evaporation rate and ice rink refrigeration load. This was
published in an ASHRAE Transactions paper. 

Also, there are some papers published on predicted evaporation rates
from exposed pools. Several are listed in the apx to the FCHART manual. 

Otherwise, you can guess. 

Jeff 
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Sent: Mon Nov 02 18:17:15 2009
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Therapy Pool Simulation 
Has anyone used EQUEST to simulate an indoor pool or therapy pool
performance?  If so please provide some pointers.  If not what program
would you suggest using?
 
Larry Smith
Architect  Energy Consultant
lasmith_architect.leed at yahoo.com
<mailto:lasmith_architect.leed at yahoo.com> 
phone 206-218-2572
fax 206-905-0812
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