[Bldg-sim] Not a simulation question, but need help looking for vendor/ productdeveloper for piezoelectric application / floor tiles.

[Eurek, John S NWO]

I once thought of opening a gym where each piece of equipment generated
electricity. (Bikes, stair masters, bench press).
 
I started by calculating the best case, the stationary bike.  

Long story short.  People are weak.  You save far more energy by turning off
the light.   

>From a web-site "http://blog.mapawatt.com/2009/07/19/bicycle-power-watts/"
"The current record holder for the Hour Record is Ondrej Sosenka and the
website BikeCult.com has an estimate of his average wattage during his Hour
Record at 430 Watts!  If Ondrej's bike were attached to a bicycle generator
and it was super efficient, Ondrej would have been generating enough power to
light up 7 60-Watt light bulbs!  Since I pay about 10 cents/kWh, if  I were
to pay Ondrej for the energy he produced over the hour he was pedaling he
would have almost  earned a whole nickel (430 Watts * 1 hour = 430 Watt-hours
= .43 kWh)!"

I don't see any way a dance floor could produce enough energy to power the a
couple of 1000 Watt speakers.

If it is feasible please send the information (as an engineer I'd like to see
the numbers.)

In building simulation, I would account for the heat a person produces, but
not the electricity.

John Eurek


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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Dan Jestico
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 8:39 AM
To: Kevin Kyte; Chris Yates; near_ej at yahoo.com;
bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a simulation question,but need help looking for
vendor/ productdeveloper for piezoelectric application / floor tiles.

They've installed piezo electric dance floors in London, Rotterdam and San
Francisco. See the below link for details of the one in London.
 
http://inhabitat.com/2008/07/16/green-a-go-go-at-londons-first-eco-disco/
 
Unfortunately I can't find the name of the manufacturer or guarantee the
quality of the dancing.
 
Dan.

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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Kyte
Sent: 12 April 2010 14:33
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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a simulation question, but need help looking for
vendor/ product developer for piezoelectric application / floor tiles.



Ha, that is great.  Thank you, what a fine way to start a Monday.  Neeraj, if
you are seriously looking into getting energy from people's fancy footwork I
would suggest looking into the (nite) club's that are putting it in their
dance floors.  You may be able to find a manufacturer.

 

Good looks, guys!  Before you know it we will all be nothing more than
hamsters on a wheel.

 

Kevin

 

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From: Chris Yates [mailto:chris at zed-uk.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:33 AM
To: near_ej at yahoo.com; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Not a simulation question, but need help looking for
vendor/ product developer for piezoelectric application / floor tiles.

 

Neeraj,

 

An interesting application. Although I cannot help you with the piezoelectric
devices you seek, I do know a very reliable manufacturer of whoopee cushions.
If these could somehow be connected into a turbine generator system, then I'm
sure you could generate an equivalent amount of power. Other benefits
include:

*         With the deluxe "auto inflating" range, the cushions would remove
air from the room with every footfall - energy free ventilation!

*         Whoopee cushion technology is tried and tested, having been
developed over the last 80 years.

*         Zero ODP & GWP

*         Fun, and a possible lasting attraction encouraging users back to
the building for years to come!

 

Best regards

 

Chris Yates

 

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of
"near_ej at yahoo.com"
Sent: 10 April 2010 04:10
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Not a simulation question, but need help looking for
vendor/ product developer for piezoelectric application / floor tiles.

 

Hello all,

We are exploring the feasibility of deploying a piezoelectric application in
a large (approx. 2,00,000 sqft), 9 stories tall, public building coming up in
India.
The building is being planned right now -- currently in the design
development phase rolling fast towards final design and tendering stage(s).
It is expected to see a very high foot fall on the ground and first floor
levels and that's where I need further help. Is there a company available to
design and sell an application or a product that will generate electricity --
perhaps using some sort of floor tiles?

Any of you who could help me may write to me directly since this is not a
simulation question.

Thanks,
Neeraj

Neeraj Kapoor
t: +91.99581.70018


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