[Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?

Deru, Michael Michael.Deru at nrel.gov
Thu Jul 15 15:25:13 PDT 2010


Seven of the models are essentially the same as developed by Joe and colleagues.  The two schools, three retail buildings, small hotel, outpatient, and warehouse models were changed to align with models developed through the Advanced Energy Design Guides published by ASHRAE.  In addition, we added a midrise apartment building.  For the seven models remaining from LBNL, we did make some changes to the HVAC and constructions based on surveys of CBECS and input from the 90.1 committees.


Michael Deru, Ph.D.
Senior Engineer II
Commercial Buildings Research Group
National Renewable Energy Laboratory
303-384-7503 (o)
303-725-3528 (c)

-----Original Message-----
From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Joe Huang
Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:51 PM
To: Morgan Heater
Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?

Yes and no. My original prototypes were reviewed in a 18-month interlab 
effort between LBNL (where I was at the time), PNNL, and NREL. A team of 
three working under me updated the prototypes to ASHRAE 90.1-2003, as 
well as incorporating comments, received mostly from PNNL and DOE. At 
DOE's request, we also converted the building files from DOE-2 BDL to 
EnergyPlus IDF, and delivered both sets to DOE, PNNL, and NREL. After my 
departure from LBNL in June 2007, NREL continued working on the 
EnergyPlus files, and released them in 2009. I have not looked at these, 
but according to my LBNL colleague these are essentially the same 
building models, although there have been some improvements to the 
system inputs from what I had delivered.


Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
Moraga CA 94556
(o) +925 388 0265
(c) +510 928 2683
yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
www.whiteboxtechnologies.com


Morgan Heater wrote:
> Are your prototypes the ones that were converted into the energyplus files
> referenced here?
> 
> http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_buil
> dings.html
> 
> If you had a doe-2 version of the medium office prototype, that would be
> really helpful.  
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Huang [mailto:YJHuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:17 PM
> To: Morgan Heater
> Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
> 
> Are you referring to a prototypical commercial office building?
> While at LBNL, I developed a suite of 486 prototypical commercial 
> buildings covering 16 building types of three vintages in 16 cities,
> that were later generalized to around 120 regional prototypes.
> 
> These were originally developed in the early 1990's as DOE-2 files,
> but were converted to EnergyPlus in 2005-2007 and now exist as DOE's
> benchmark buildings available on the NREL web site.  However, I did
> all the development work in DOE-2, and still have all these DOE-2
> files, with the intention of putting them on my Web site at some
> point.
> 
> I can send you the medium office prototype if you're interested.
> A distinguishing feature of these prototypes is that the input files
> are highly modular and make extensive use of DOE-2 macros to set the
> key building parameters (size, number of floors, interior conditions, 
> etc.). This makes the building models very flexible and extensible.
> After all, I've yet to meet a researcher who just wanted to have an
> input file and do a run without any modifications.
> 
> Joe
> 
> Joe Huang
> White Box Technologies, Inc.
> 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
> Moraga CA 94556
> (o) +925 388 0265
> (c) +510 928 2683
> yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> www.whiteboxtechnologies.com
> 
> 
> Morgan Heater wrote:
>>
>> Hi - I'm looking for either a doe2 model or a list of modeling 
>> parameters for a prototype commercial building.  Ideally, I'm looking 
>> for a model that's for a typical commercial building around 40,000 
>> square feet that's been used/validated in other research projects.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anybody have any leads?  Thanks. 
>>
>>  
>>
>> Morgan Heater, PE, LEED AP
>>
>> Ecotope, Inc
>>
>>  
>>
>> (206) 322-3753 x209
>>
>> 4056 9th Avenue NE
>>
>> Seattle, WA  98105
>>
>>  
>>
>>
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