[Bldg-sim] LEED Canada CS 2009 - No Tenant Layouts

Paul Riemer Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com
Wed Aug 3 11:02:12 PDT 2011

Aaron & Lilah,
In its LEED 2012 draft, the USGBC replaced the 25% default process energy piece with more generic statements to model unregulated loads accurately and to document the assumptions.  GBCI reviewers have commented on specific internal load assumptions.
The ASHRAE 90.1 User's Manual, Title 24 NonRes ACM, and COMNET are also good sources for default internal loads.  I believe the COMNET workbook even puts them side by side.

Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP BD+C

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Montague, Lilah
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 12:47 PM
To: Aaron Smith; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] LEED Canada CS 2009 - No Tenant Layouts

Hi Aaron,

I also am unable to find a reference to the 25% process energy requirement.

For the tenant spaces with a lease agreement for the lighting power densities, I would use assumptions for space breakdowns, and then apply the lease agreement lighting power density reductions.  I also suggest listing these assumptions in the modeling report (or narrative).  To get an assumption of an office area breakdown, one way could be to build a quick eQUEST model of the office floor space, selecting "building type" as office in the wizard, then going into the detailed wizard to find the default space area breakdowns (80% office space, 5% washroom, 5% kitchen, etc).  I am not sure what the eQUEST default area breakdowns are based on, but that info may be available somewhere in the eQUEST documentation.

Also suggest you check the recent LEED Canada 2009 Supplementary Energy Modeling Guidelines document, available on the CaGBC website, under "Programs => LEED => Rating Systems => Core and Shell.

Good luck!


Lilah Montague, B.Eng. EIT LEED(r) AP
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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Smith
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 7:28 PM
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Subject: [Bldg-sim] LEED Canada CS 2009 - No Tenant Layouts


I'm preparing a model for an office building for LEED Canada CS 2009.  Modelling is with EE4 following NRCan rules with an MNECB reference building.  Base building includes rooftop units, baseboard perimeter heat, core area with washrooms, electrical rooms, stairwells, elevators, etc.  One floor of the building has a ceiling in place with VAV boxes, diffusers and lights laid out for an open office plan (as laid out in the lease).  The other two floors of the building have VAV boxes installed as base building but the tenants will be responsible for installing lights or diffusers in tenant fit-ups.  Walls will probably be added and VAV boxes may need to change at that point in time.

I had the owner put requirements in the lease for lighting power density and lighting controls (Core Performance Guide) so I'll be claiming credit for those.  The problem I have is that there are no floor layouts indicating open office areas, private offices, conference rooms, staff rooms, etc. so I'm not sure what to use for reference building lighting power density and plug loads in the leased tenant areas.  My first thought for lighting was to use the building area method for the reference building then use a mix of actual installed lighting and Core Performance Guide lighting densities in the proposed assuming all open office plans for the tenant fit-up areas.  Any comments would be appreciated.

As a side note, I don't see any requirement in Canada for 25% of energy being process like there is in the US.


Aaron Smith, P.Eng
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