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Subject: [BLDG-SIM] Exterior shades / daylight on floor surface -
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I may be expanding the forum somewhat, but, does anyone have experience
modeling exterior shades / fins to optimize day lighting using Ecotect?

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I am modeling some exterior shades and it seems that the impact on
internal light levels is not being reflected to the degree I would
expect.  Now I know the algorithm used uses a diffuse sky rather than
direct radiation, but still the effect of the shades does not seem to
reduce the internal light levels.  I ran a check using insolation and
direct radiation so I know the model "sees" the shades, but the daylight
is acting funny.
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