[Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007

[Nick Caton]

Ditto, for what it's worth!

 

I had a project with a 2-story entry/atrium space with a glass exterior in a very cold climate... actual design used a heavy amount of baseboards along the perimeter in addition to FPVAV's with reheat.

 

The baseline system serving that space was a fan-powered box (System 6) that had to autosize pretty big to keep up with the heating loads.

 

~Nick

 

 

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of James V Dirkes II, PE
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:24 PM
To: 'Will Mak'; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007

 

That is exactly my understanding.

 

The Building Performance Team
James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
1631 Acacia Drive NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49504
616 450 8653

 

From: Will Mak [mailto:wmak at epsteinglobal.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 4:15 PM
To: James V Dirkes II, PE; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007

 

So the interpretation would be that we must model the baseboard system with whatever HVAC system is associated with the design while the baseline model only has to include the system type spelled out in the guidelines?

 

William Mak, LEED Green Associate
Mechanical Design Engineer

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From: James V Dirkes II, PE [mailto:jvd2pe at tds.net] 
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:14 PM
To: Will Mak; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007

 

Dear Will,

 

All baseline systems have some sort of (non-baseboard) heating as part of the system.  Baseboard would only be used for a Proposed system.

 

The Building Performance Team
James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
1631 Acacia Drive NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49504
616 450 8653

 

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Will Mak
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2011 3:48 PM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] modeling baseboard in 90.1-2007

 

Hello all,

 

I was trying to find some guidance on how we are suppose to model baseboard systems on the baseline model for LEED submission. Are they treated like preheat systems where we must simulate them to be the same on both the proposed and baseline or is there some rule I'm not seeing in ASHRAE 90.1-2007?

 

Thanks!

 

William Mak, LEED Green Associate
Mechanical Design Engineer

EPSTEIN
Architecture
Interiors
Engineering
Construction

600 West Fulton Street
Chicago, Illinois 60661-1259

D: (312) 429-8116
F: (312) 559-1217
E: wmak at epsteinglobal.com
W: www.epsteinglobal.com <http://www.epsteinglobal.com/> 

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