[Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Shanta Tucker shanta.tucker at atelierten.com
Thu May 12 13:47:33 PDT 2011


Omar,
I would recommend that you add some additional time to respond to GBCI comments after submitting the EAc1 documentation, too. Often they will ask for changes to the model and a written narrative to answer their concerns. You may want to budget several days to do this (or list it as an hourly service) if this project is complex.

Best,

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Shanta Tucker

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Genest, Frederic
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 4:39 PM
To: Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Omar,

I agree with this assessment. I usually consider up to two weeks of work for a skilled modeler to complete the simulation and documentation, assuming all the relevant information is readily available, and that you won't have to correct/update the model as the project goes.

Though it depends more on the project complexity, re: envelope and HVAC systems, and less on project size.  A cubic building with 20 times the same HVAC system is simpler to model than a multi-wing building with variable fenestration ratios and 20 different HVAC systems.

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De : Demba Ndiaye [mailto:Demba.Ndiaye at setty.com]
Envoyé : 12 mai 2011 16:28
À : Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Objet : Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Omar,

I would expect, for a building this size, approximately 40 hours (multiply by your hourly rate). The 40 hours include EAp2/EAc1 LEED documentation, and any review you may have to respond to later.

Now, given that you have never done a LEED model, it will take you more time, possibly up to 40 more hours.

HTH,

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Demba NDIAYE

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Omar Delgado
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:08 PM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Greetings everyone,

I have a question regarding the cost of an energy model for a LEED project. Every energy model I've done so far has been for
existing buildings, mainly for optimization purposes. However, I received an RFP to model a five-story, 41,500 sq. ft. building
that's currently on the design phase and is pursuing the LEED-NC Silver certification. I really have no idea what would be a fair
price for this model since I'm going to have to use Appendix G (ASHRAE 90.1) to evaluate the difference between the base
and proposed buildings. I don't know how much extra effort this will take. I know the procedure, just haven't done it before.

Can you shed any light on this issue?

Thanks in advance!

Omar A. Delgado Colón, P.E., MEnvM., LEED AP BD&C
Vice President
EnerMech
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130 Winston Churchill Ave.
San Juan, PR 00926-6018
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