[Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Genest, Frederic fgenest at pageaumorel.com
Thu May 12 14:06:56 PDT 2011


Well, I can dream, right? ;-)

 

Frankly, I was hinting that you ought to wait "until the end" to model for LEED... J

 

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De : Will Mak [mailto:wmak at epsteinglobal.com] 
Envoyé : 12 mai 2011 16:46
À : Genest, Frederic; Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Objet : RE: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

 

Let me know when you ever work on a project where all relevant information is readily available and you don't have to correct/update the model as the project goes. J

 

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From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Genest, Frederic
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:39 PM
To: Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

 

Omar,

 

I agree with this assessment. I usually consider up to two weeks of work for a skilled modeler to complete the simulation and documentation, assuming all the relevant information is readily available, and that you won't have to correct/update the model as the project goes.

 

Though it depends more on the project complexity, re: envelope and HVAC systems, and less on project size.  A cubic building with 20 times the same HVAC system is simpler to model than a multi-wing building with variable fenestration ratios and 20 different HVAC systems.

 

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De : Demba Ndiaye [mailto:Demba.Ndiaye at setty.com] 
Envoyé : 12 mai 2011 16:28
À : Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Objet : Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

 

Omar,

 

I would expect, for a building this size, approximately 40 hours (multiply by your hourly rate). The 40 hours include EAp2/EAc1 LEED documentation, and any review you may have to respond to later.

 

Now, given that you have never done a LEED model, it will take you more time, possibly up to 40 more hours.

 

HTH,

 

_______________

Demba NDIAYE

 

From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Omar Delgado
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:08 PM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

 

Greetings everyone,

 

I have a question regarding the cost of an energy model for a LEED project. Every energy model I've done so far has been for 

existing buildings, mainly for optimization purposes. However, I received an RFP to model a five-story, 41,500 sq. ft. building

that's currently on the design phase and is pursuing the LEED-NC Silver certification. I really have no idea what would be a fair 

price for this model since I'm going to have to use Appendix G (ASHRAE 90.1) to evaluate the difference between the base 

and proposed buildings. I don't know how much extra effort this will take. I know the procedure, just haven't done it before.

 

Can you shed any light on this issue?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Omar A. Delgado Colón, P.E., MEnvM., LEED AP BD&C

Vice President

EnerMech

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San Juan, PR 00926-6018

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