[Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost

Martin Roy martin.roy at mra.qc.ca
Thu May 12 14:50:17 PDT 2011


Hi all,
I also agree with the 2 weeks and if in the 
building is in Canada it is easyer to use EE4 as 
you get the MNECB base line and in the US Equest 
can give you a title 24 that is accepted as 90.1 baseline

Martin

At 17:06 12/05/2011, Genest, Frederic wrote:
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>Well, I can dream, right? ;-)
>
>Frankly, I was hinting that you ought to wait 
>“until the end” to model for LEED
 J
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>Regards,
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>De : Will Mak [mailto:wmak at epsteinglobal.com]
>Envoyé : 12 mai 2011 16:46
>À : Genest, Frederic; Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Objet : RE: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost
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>Let me know when you ever work on a project 
>where all relevant information is readily 
>available and you don’t have to correct/update the model as the project goes. J
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>[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Genest, Frederic
>Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:39 PM
>To: Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost
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>Omar,
>
>I agree with this assessment. I usually consider 
>up to two weeks of work for a skilled modeler to 
>complete the simulation and documentation, 
>assuming all the relevant information is readily 
>available, and that you won’t have to 
>correct/update the model as the project goes.
>
>Though it depends more on the project 
>complexity, re: envelope and HVAC systems, and 
>less on project size.  A cubic building with 20 
>times the same HVAC system is simpler to model 
>than a multi-wing building with variable 
>fenestration ratios and 20 different HVAC systems.
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>Regards,
>
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>De : Demba Ndiaye [mailto:Demba.Ndiaye at setty.com]
>Envoyé : 12 mai 2011 16:28
>À : Omar Delgado; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Objet : Re: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost
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>Omar,
>
>I would expect, for a building this size, 
>approximately 40 hours (multiply by your hourly 
>rate). The 40 hours include EAp2/EAc1 LEED 
>documentation, and any review you may have to respond to later.
>
>Now, given that you have never done a LEED 
>model, it will take you more time, possibly up to 40 more hours.
>
>HTH,
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>[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Omar Delgado
>Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 7:08 PM
>To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>Subject: [Bldg-sim] Energy Model Cost
>
>Greetings everyone,
>
>I have a question regarding the cost of an 
>energy model for a LEED project. Every energy 
>model I've done so far has been for
>existing buildings, mainly for optimization 
>purposes. However, I received an RFP to model a 
>five-story, 41,500 sq. ft. building
>that's currently on the design phase and is 
>pursuing the LEED-NC Silver certification. I 
>really have no idea what would be a fair
>price for this model since I'm going to have to 
>use Appendix G (ASHRAE 90.1) to evaluate the difference between the base
>and proposed buildings. I don't know how much 
>extra effort this will take. I know the procedure, just haven't done it before.
>
>Can you shed any light on this issue?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
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