[Bldg-sim] Walk-in Coolers/Freezers
Jorge Torres-Coto
jtorres-coto at mbo1.com
Thu May 26 20:08:21 PDT 2011
eQUEST has the refrigeration module that can model this
http://doe2.com/equest/index.html
We have used this version of eQUEST on restaurants (small QUICK -SERVICE))
Jorge E. Torres Coto
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San Diego, CA 92123
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Martin Roy
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 5:14 PM
To: Jeff Haberl
Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Walk-in Coolers/Freezers
Hi Kurt,
We model a refrigerated warehouse using ESPr and TRNSYS. We did not try
Energy+.
The main reason was to evaluate the effect of the thermal mass stored
against the incoming product that was warmer.
when we compare our result to those of the refrigeration contractor there
was a big difference. Half of their calculated load
And compare to actual energy consumption, it was close.
So if you use energy+ be shure to include thermal mass.
Martin
At 15:00 26/05/2011, Jeff Haberl wrote:
Kurt,
We had this problem before in the mid-80s simulating an ice rink at a Rec
Center. This was published in an ASHRAE Transactions paper. We basically got
around the issue by fudging the "U x A x Delta-T"...in this case fiddling
with either the U or the A to adjust for the Delta-T. Results worked well
against metered data.
Jeff
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Sent: Monday, May 23, 2011 9:19 PM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Walk-in Coolers/Freezers
Hi all,
Is it possible to use EnergyPlus to model a walk-in cooler or freezer? I
have tried but regardless of the temperature setpoint I choose for the
freezer, the modeled temperature does not want to drop below about 42 F.
Also, has anyone made a model of a cooler that accurately estimates
electricity loads? I was able to model a cooler with a 45 F setpoint but I
was way under the electricity consumption estimates I found for
coolers/freezers on the web. I think my problem was the large amount of
electrical usage for non-compressor loads defrost cycle, evaporator fan,
condenser fan, etc.
Kurt Creamer
Apex, NC
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