[Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams

Pavel Dybskiy pdybskiy at gmail.com
Thu Jun 7 20:35:27 PDT 2012


Hi Rob,

I have installed OpenStudio
I tried to import one of e+ example files, SolarCollectorFlatPlateWater.idf.
It looks like OpenStudio didn't recognize quite a few objects, e.g.
IddObjectType: 'WaterHeater:Mixed'
Please advise.

Pavel


On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Guglielmetti, Robert <
Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov> wrote:

> I would humbly submit OpenStudio (openstudio.nrel.gov) as a tool for
> diagramming these systems. The OpenStudio application has a visual HVAC
> system design tab in the interface that has been engineered to allow idiots
> like me to create ASHRAE standard system types, and customize from there as
> needed. While the graphics may not be super sexy, they tell the story.
> Further, after you've dragged and dropped your way to a functional and
> valid HVAC system description, you not only have a series of graphics that
> illustrate it, you also have underlying code describing this system in
> OpenStudio-speak, as well as EnergyPlus-speak, ready for simulation.
>
> Rob Guglielmetti
> NREL
>
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> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM
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> Subject: [Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
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> Sorry for cross-posting,
>
> Does anyone use MS Visio for sketching HVAC diagrams?
> Is it a good alternative to Ms Word, which is somehow tolerable for simple
> diagrams, but gets really out of hands for bigger diagrams?
> The shapes, which are included in Visio, are they helpful, meaningful,
> give professional look?
>
> Somebody is using Excel (might be lacking flexibility when topology is
> unknown).
> Somebody is using Inkscape.
> Any other thoughts
> Thank you,
>
> Pavel Dybskiy
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Dirkes <
> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
> wrote:
>
> No “tool” Pavel, just Excel with formatted cells and arrows – pretty
> unsophisticated, but easier (I think) than learning Inkscape.  I know of
> others using Inkscape, however, and it looks like a very capable tool.
>
> The Building Performance Team
> James V. Dirkes II, P.E., BEMP , LEED AP
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> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
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> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:18 PM
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> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
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>
> Hi Jim,
> What tool do you use to draw your diagram?
>
> Dear List,
> I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts on your favorite tool to
> draft efficiently such diagrams.
> Is there anything better than pencil and paper?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jim Dirkes <
> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
> wrote:
> Dear Forum,
> The schematic I have attached is a common boiler plant piping
> configuration in my experience, using an individual constant speed pump for
> each boiler, plus a variable speed distribution pump.
> Officially it’s a “primary – secondary pumping loop”.
> I cannot make the primary pumps shut off when the corresponding boiler is
> inactive.  Has anyone successfully modeled this configuration?  Do you know
> of an example file with this configuration?
> Thanks in advance.
>
> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD4283.651E5C90]
> Making me think….
> Why is it?  We routinely use miracles of creativity and technology that
> 50-100 years ago would be considered impossible or black magic … and also
> assume that whole segments of society are incapable of helping themselves
>  or acting intelligently.  Is it a self-fulfilling expectation?
>
>
>
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> --
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>
> Pavel Dybskiy
> M.A.Sc<http://M.A.Sc>. Candidate, Department of Architectural Science
> Faculty of Engineering, Architecture and Science, Ryerson University
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