[Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams

Pavel Dybskiy pdybskiy at gmail.com
Fri Jun 8 14:45:14 PDT 2012


Here is a Visio-made diagram
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxMkJIZCZN5ESnJYVFpsR3lTZVk

What do I miss? Is it satisfactory for a report/manual/paper?

First round, about 3 hours, about 10 iterations.
Just one click to get all formatting you need.
Very fast learning track.
Very useful Format painter and very flexible connectors
Less frustrating experience comparing with Word which I used before.

Next time, I hope, it's gonna take 20-30 min

Pavel


On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:08 AM, CleanTech Analytics <
jeremiah at cleantechanalytics.com> wrote:

> Would you say that Open studio is finally "ready" for real world projects?
> I have been a fan, and have made effort to use  it for years but just never
> found it to work very well (looks great tho)
> If Open studio has got the bugs out I am sure many users would jump on
> board- so is it ready?
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> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Pavel Dybskiy <pdybskiy at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> I have installed OpenStudio
>> I tried to import one of e+ example files,
>> SolarCollectorFlatPlateWater.idf.
>> It looks like OpenStudio didn't recognize quite a few objects, e.g.
>> IddObjectType: 'WaterHeater:Mixed'
>> Please advise.
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Guglielmetti, Robert <
>> Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov> wrote:
>>
>>> I would humbly submit OpenStudio (openstudio.nrel.gov) as a tool for
>>> diagramming these systems. The OpenStudio application has a visual HVAC
>>> system design tab in the interface that has been engineered to allow idiots
>>> like me to create ASHRAE standard system types, and customize from there as
>>> needed. While the graphics may not be super sexy, they tell the story.
>>> Further, after you've dragged and dropped your way to a functional and
>>> valid HVAC system description, you not only have a series of graphics that
>>> illustrate it, you also have underlying code describing this system in
>>> OpenStudio-speak, as well as EnergyPlus-speak, ready for simulation.
>>>
>>> Rob Guglielmetti
>>> NREL
>>>
>>> ________________________________________
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>>> bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Dybskiy [
>>> pdybskiy at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM
>>> To: EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>>> Subject: [Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
>>>
>>> Sorry for cross-posting,
>>>
>>> Does anyone use MS Visio for sketching HVAC diagrams?
>>> Is it a good alternative to Ms Word, which is somehow tolerable for
>>> simple diagrams, but gets really out of hands for bigger diagrams?
>>> The shapes, which are included in Visio, are they helpful, meaningful,
>>> give professional look?
>>>
>>> Somebody is using Excel (might be lacking flexibility when topology is
>>> unknown).
>>> Somebody is using Inkscape.
>>> Any other thoughts
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Pavel Dybskiy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Dirkes <
>>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> No “tool” Pavel, just Excel with formatted cells and arrows – pretty
>>> unsophisticated, but easier (I think) than learning Inkscape.  I know of
>>> others using Inkscape, however, and it looks like a very capable tool.
>>>
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>>> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
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>>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:18 PM
>>> To: EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
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>>> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Jim,
>>> What tool do you use to draw your diagram?
>>>
>>> Dear List,
>>> I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts on your favorite tool to
>>> draft efficiently such diagrams.
>>> Is there anything better than pencil and paper?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jim Dirkes <
>>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>> Dear Forum,
>>> The schematic I have attached is a common boiler plant piping
>>> configuration in my experience, using an individual constant speed pump for
>>> each boiler, plus a variable speed distribution pump.
>>> Officially it’s a “primary – secondary pumping loop”.
>>> I cannot make the primary pumps shut off when the corresponding boiler
>>> is inactive.  Has anyone successfully modeled this configuration?  Do you
>>> know of an example file with this configuration?
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD4283.651E5C90]
>>> Making me think….
>>> Why is it?  We routinely use miracles of creativity and technology that
>>> 50-100 years ago would be considered impossible or black magic … and also
>>> assume that whole segments of society are incapable of helping themselves
>>>  or acting intelligently.  Is it a self-fulfilling expectation?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Pavel Dybskiy
>>> M.A.Sc<http://M.A.Sc>. Candidate, Department of Architectural Science
>>> Faculty of Engineering, Architecture and Science, Ryerson University
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