[Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams

[Pavel Dybskiy]

Thank you Anupam,

I enjoyed examples they have.
I tried it for 5 min.
I should admit it's a very intelligent/quick (should I say brilliant) in
making and playing with blocks and connectors.
During these 5 mins I failed to find a quick way to format individual
blocks and text inside blocks (color, font), except  at least 3-4
clicks  through  menus, pop-ups, dialogues.
Is there a format painter?
May be I miss some magic tricks or .....
this tool was meant for something more abstract.

Pavel

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:57 AM, Anupam Jain <anupam11 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Pavel ,et al.
>
> I use yEd ( http://www.yworks.com/en/products_yed_about.html) for drawing
> flow charts, venn diagrams, etc. It can easily be used for drawing HVAC
> flow diagrams as well. yEd is free to download and install and is quite
> powerful.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Anupam
>
> ---
> Anupam Jain, B.Arch, MBS, LEED AP (BD+C, O+M)
> **Senior Green Building Specialist
>
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 17:45:14 -0400
>> From: Pavel Dybskiy <pdybskiy at gmail.com>
>> To: "bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org" <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>,
>>        "EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com"
>>        <EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
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>>
>> Here is a Visio-made diagram
>> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BxMkJIZCZN5ESnJYVFpsR3lTZVk
>>
>> What do I miss? Is it satisfactory for a report/manual/paper?
>>
>> First round, about 3 hours, about 10 iterations.
>> Just one click to get all formatting you need.
>> Very fast learning track.
>> Very useful Format painter and very flexible connectors
>> Less frustrating experience comparing with Word which I used before.
>>
>> Next time, I hope, it's gonna take 20-30 min
>>
>> Pavel
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:08 AM, CleanTech Analytics <
>> jeremiah at cleantechanalytics.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Would you say that Open studio is finally "ready" for real world
>> projects?
>> > I have been a fan, and have made effort to use  it for years but just
>> never
>> > found it to work very well (looks great tho)
>> > If Open studio has got the bugs out I am sure many users would jump on
>> > board- so is it ready?
>> >
>> > Best regards-
>> >
>> >
>> > *Jeremiah D. Crossett*
>> > *CleanTech Analytics*
>> > *503-688-8951*
>> > *www.cleantechanalytics.com* <http://www.cleantechanalytics.com>
>> >
>> >
>> > *
>> >
>> > This document may contain valuable information proprietary to CleanTech
>> > Analytics which is private and confidential. It may not be shared,
>> copied,
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Pavel Dybskiy <pdybskiy at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Rob,
>> >>
>> >> I have installed OpenStudio
>> >> I tried to import one of e+ example files,
>> >> SolarCollectorFlatPlateWater.idf.
>> >> It looks like OpenStudio didn't recognize quite a few objects, e.g.
>> >> IddObjectType: 'WaterHeater:Mixed'
>> >> Please advise.
>> >>
>> >> Pavel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:58 AM, Guglielmetti, Robert <
>> >> Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I would humbly submit OpenStudio (openstudio.nrel.gov) as a tool for
>> >>> diagramming these systems. The OpenStudio application has a visual
>> HVAC
>> >>> system design tab in the interface that has been engineered to allow
>> idiots
>> >>> like me to create ASHRAE standard system types, and customize from
>> there as
>> >>> needed. While the graphics may not be super sexy, they tell the story.
>> >>> Further, after you've dragged and dropped your way to a functional and
>> >>> valid HVAC system description, you not only have a series of graphics
>> that
>> >>> illustrate it, you also have underlying code describing this system in
>> >>> OpenStudio-speak, as well as EnergyPlus-speak, ready for simulation.
>> >>>
>> >>> Rob Guglielmetti
>> >>> NREL
>> >>>
>> >>> ________________________________________
>> >>> From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
>> >>> bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Pavel Dybskiy [
>> >>> pdybskiy at gmail.com]
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 9:27 AM
>> >>> To: EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com;
>> bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>> >>> Subject: [Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry for cross-posting,
>> >>>
>> >>> Does anyone use MS Visio for sketching HVAC diagrams?
>> >>> Is it a good alternative to Ms Word, which is somehow tolerable for
>> >>> simple diagrams, but gets really out of hands for bigger diagrams?
>> >>> The shapes, which are included in Visio, are they helpful, meaningful,
>> >>> give professional look?
>> >>>
>> >>> Somebody is using Excel (might be lacking flexibility when topology is
>> >>> unknown).
>> >>> Somebody is using Inkscape.
>> >>> Any other thoughts
>> >>> Thank you,
>> >>>
>> >>> Pavel Dybskiy
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Dirkes <
>> >>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:
>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> No ?tool? Pavel, just Excel with formatted cells and arrows ? pretty
>> >>> unsophisticated, but easier (I think) than learning Inkscape.  I know
>> of
>> >>> others using Inkscape, however, and it looks like a very capable tool.
>> >>>
>> >>> The Building Performance Team
>> >>> James V. Dirkes II, P.E., BEMP , LEED AP
>> >>> 1631 Acacia Drive NW
>> >>> Grand Rapids, MI 49504
>> >>> 616 450 8653<tel:616%20450%208653>
>> >>>
>> >>> From: EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
>> >>> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
>> >>> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
>> >>> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Pavel Dybskiy
>> >>> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:18 PM
>> >>> To: EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com<mailto:
>> >>> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com>
>> >>> Subject: [EnergyPlus_Support] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Jim,
>> >>> What tool do you use to draw your diagram?
>> >>>
>> >>> Dear List,
>> >>> I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts on your favorite tool to
>> >>> draft efficiently such diagrams.
>> >>> Is there anything better than pencil and paper?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks,
>> >>>
>> >>> Paul
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jim Dirkes <
>> >>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com<mailto:
>> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com>>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> Dear Forum,
>> >>> The schematic I have attached is a common boiler plant piping
>> >>> configuration in my experience, using an individual constant speed
>> pump for
>> >>> each boiler, plus a variable speed distribution pump.
>> >>> Officially it?s a ?primary ? secondary pumping loop?.
>> >>> I cannot make the primary pumps shut off when the corresponding boiler
>> >>> is inactive.  Has anyone successfully modeled this configuration?  Do
>> you
>> >>> know of an example file with this configuration?
>> >>> Thanks in advance.
>> >>>
>> >>> [cid:image001.jpg at 01CD4283.651E5C90]
>> >>> Making me think?.
>> >>> Why is it?  We routinely use miracles of creativity and technology
>> that
>> >>> 50-100 years ago would be considered impossible or black magic ? and
>> also
>> >>> assume that whole segments of society are incapable of helping
>> themselves
>> >>>  or acting intelligently.  Is it a self-fulfilling expectation?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Best Regards,
>> >>>
>> >>> Pavel Dybskiy
>> >>> M.A.Sc<http://M.A.Sc>. Candidate, Department of Architectural Science
>> >>> Faculty of Engineering, Architecture and Science, Ryerson University
>> >>> E-mail: pdybskiy at ryerson.ca<mailto:pdybskiy at ryerson.ca>;
>> >>> telephone: 647-984-4940<tel:647-984-4940>
>> >>>
>>
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