[Bldg-sim] October Conference Call for SPC 209P Committee

[Dennis Knight]

Great agenda and very good list of current resources.  Just in case I am
not able to participate in Thursday's call, see comments/additions
below in Green
Text as food for thought by the committee:

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Jason Glazer <jglazer at gard.com> wrote:

> Here is the agenda for the meeting Thursday.
>
> 1. Introductions - Glazer
>
> 2. Announcements - Glazer
>
> 3. Masterplanning/Predesign - Marcus Sheffer
>
> 4. Conceptual design/Schematic design - Dan Katzenberger
>
> 5. Design development/Construction documents - Chris Baker
>
> 6. Construction/Commissioning/As-**built/Operations - David Reddy
>
> 7. Resources/References/**Definitions - Lee DeBaillie
>
> Some resources have been gathered so far:
>
> https://docs.google.com/**spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqsZa_**M20-**
> ZbdGh5dWJqNnZGRHczMUpfV2J4dEd3**Z3c<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqsZa_M20-ZbdGh5dWJqNnZGRHczMUpfV2J4dEd3Z3c>


Suggest adding ASHRAE Handbook chapters on energy modeling and life cycle
cost analysis and the ASHRAE comercial building energy auditing guide.
 Much of the data gathering requirements for an energy audit parallel the
data required to do a model and calibrate it for an existing building.

>
>
> 8. Big Picture Questions (motions from members welcome)
>
>   a) Are we writing a document for the modeler or for the entire design
> team? Should be for the entire integrated design team/process
>
>   b) Do we require specific energy efficiency measures to be evaluated?
> And if so, is previously modeling a similar building with that same energy
> efficiency measure sufficient? Suggest no ECM's be included, just process
> and procedures.
>
>   c) Does the building owner get the modeling input files or just the
> results of modeling? Just like designs and BIM models - Owner should have
> a limited license to use the information for the operation, maintenance and
> future modification of the specific property.  Engineer/modeler should
> retain ownership and all rights to the intellectual property contained in
> the model.
>
>   d) Are we writing a standard intended for use as a regulatory document?
>
>   e) What, if anything, will be required versus recommended in the
> Standard?  Mandatory vs prescriptive? Mandatory requirements should be a
> minimum set of modeling software capabilities similar to 90.1 and LEED
> requirements now (Indoor and outdoor design conditions, weather files,
> load/energy modeling methodology, envelope components, systems and
> equipment, data exchange formats, schedules, utility rate structures,
> standard reports, minimum inputs and outputs, part load curve development,
> minimum software documentation and minimum output documentation, etc..
> Modeler should be held to similar standard of care and rigor as the design
> professional if the model is informing design decisions or falls within a
> State's licensing regulations for studies and reports.   If dealing with
> processes and procedures not sure what kind of prescriptive measures would
> be considered.  Those should stay in existing standards like 90.1, 90.2,
> 189, 62, etc.
>
>   f) LEED v4 will require design phase modeling. Should we be writing this
> Standard in a way that allows USGBC to adopt it into LEED (in whole or in
> part)?  Yes! as well as utility rebates and federal, state and municipal
> incentive programs.
>
>   g) Is the Standard limited to energy modeling or is it more broadly
> about designing energy efficient buildings? Energy modeling process -
> very similar to Life Cycle Cost analysis processes and life cycle
> assessment processes.
>
>   h) Are we going to address how to do the actual modeling work as opposed
> to what to do when within the design process? There are many more uses
> for modeling than design.  O&M, commissioning, third party verification of
> designs, etc.
>
> 9. Next Full SPC 209P Call November 8, 2pm-4pm Central
>
> If you plan on attending, please register for the webinar as described
> below.
>
> Jason
>
> On 10/6/2012 7:21 PM, Jason Glazer wrote:
>
>> SPC209P Committee members and interested parties:
>>
>> Our next full SPC209P committee conference call will be on
>> October 11 from 2pm to 4pm central time.  It is open to
>> anyone. You must register for the call prior to joining.
>> Please click on the following link to register.
>>
>> https://www3.gotomeeting.com/**register/368307750<https://www3.gotomeeting.com/register/368307750>
>>
>> October conference call of the ASRHAE SPC209P Full Committee
>>
>> Title:    SPC 209P October Full Committee Conference Call
>> Date:     Thursday, October 11, 2012
>> Time:     2:00 PM - 4:00 PM CDT
>>
>> After registering you will receive a confirmation email
>> containing information about joining the Webinar.
>>
>> Agenda to follow.
>>
>> *System Requirements*
>> PC-based attendees
>> Required: Windows® 7, Vista, XP or 2003 Server
>> Mac®-based attendees
>> Required: Mac OS® X 10.5 or newer
>> Mobile attendees
>> Required: iPhone®, iPad®, Android™ phone or Android tablet
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jason Glazer
>> Chair SPC209P
>>
>
> --
> Jason Glazer, P.E., GARD Analytics, 90.1 ECB chair
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