[Bldg-sim] BIN Method Tool
Jim Dirkes
jim at buildingperformanceteam.com
Wed Aug 28 10:32:13 PDT 2013
Definitely DOS.
James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
www.buildingperformanceteam.com
Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
616 450 8653
-----Original Message-----
From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jason Glazer
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 11:50 AM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] BIN Method Tool
ASEAM is available through Archive.org's wayback machine at:
http://web.archive.org/web/20031209152712/http://fishbaugher.com/aseam.htm
I think it was DOS software.
Jason
On 8/28/2013 8:46 AM, Chris Balbach wrote:
> All:
>
> For what it is worth, I've found the bin based (beta) online energy
> savings calculator tool used to support DOE Advanced Rooftop Campaign
> to be very useful - see: http://www.pnnl.gov/uac/
>
> It's very well documented, and uses an innovative hybrid approach
> combining regressions of the DOE Commercial Reference Buildings along
> with bin-based calculation methods for determining cooling energy
> savings associated with (compressor based cooling - no support for
> evaporative cooling) rooftop unit related improvements. The tool
> accounts for part load efficiencies and basic economizer operations.
> The tool allows for users to create custom load lines representing
> building cooling loads, and offers a spreadsheet import for using RTU
> specific performance data, if needed. One can even use it to extract
> bin hours (DB + MCWB) for canned schedule sets for a large set of US
> weather sites. With a bit of post processing, given the output bin
> data one can easily also estimate the energy savings associated with ventilation
> energy recovery as a possible RTU replacement option. A useful
> deployment of taxpayer funded commercial buildings research, IMHO.
>
>
> Also - I have the executables for ASEAM, if anyone wants them. My
> recollection is that ASEAM won't run on a 64 bit machine - period.
> and needs to run in 16 bit mode on a 32 bit windows machine
> operating in Windows 95 compatibility mode. Nevertheless, it is
> still a pretty interesting ASCII text GUI (multi-zone) bin based
> estimating tool. Contact me offline if you want me to send it to
> you. The documentation behind ASEAM is largely available (free pdf
> download to ASHRAE members) as the final report for ASHRAE RP 363 :
> "Upgrading Documentation of the Proposed TC 4.7 Simplified Energy
> Analysis Procedure". While I agree with Joe - it's certainly
> old-school, the documentation is still solid if one is looking to
> build their own measure specific custom spreadsheet-based
> calculator, etc.
>
> All the Best,
>
> _Chris
>
> Chris Balbach, PE, CM, CMVP, BEAP, BEMP, BESA
>
> Vice President of Research and Development
>
> Performance Systems Development of NY, LLC
>
> 124 Brindley Street, Suite 4, Ithaca, NY, 14850
>
> http://www.psdconsulting.com
>
> ph: (607)-327-1647
>
> *From:*bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Joe
> Huang
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 11:34 PM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] BIN Method Tool
>
> I also recall ASEAM from back in the mid-1980's, when it was thought
> to be an easier program to teach than DOE-2 for a USAID project to
> help ASEAN countries develop building energy standards. Back in those
> days, ASHRAE TC 4.7 was quite involved in refining the modified bin
> calculation method that got known as the TC 4.7 Simplified Energy
> Analysis Procedure.
> The best implementation of the modified bin method that I know of was
> TrakLoad, also mid-1980's vintage, developed by Robert Sonderegger,
> now at Itron, though I doubt that Robert is still marketing or
> supporting the program.
>
> This is all ancient history, as far as energy calculations goes. I
> see no advantage to the bin method as compared to a hour-by-hour
> simulation, especially if you have to go through a lot of hoops to
> resurrect the programs as well as get the weather data into the bin
> format (though that's really very easy to do).
>
> Joe
>
> Joe Huang
>
> White Box Technologies, Inc.
>
> 346 Rheem Blvd., Suite 108D
>
> Moraga CA 94556
>
> yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> <mailto:yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com>
>
> http://weather.whiteboxtechnologies.com for simulation-ready weather
> data
>
> (o) (925)388-0265
>
> (c) (510)928-2683
>
> "building energy simulations at your fingertips"
>
>
> On 8/27/2013 5:34 PM, Jim Dirkes wrote:
>
> Back in the day, I used a BASIC program called ASEAM that was
> developed by an ASHRAE research project. It was capable of modeling
> only a single zone and limited number of HVAC systems (as I recall). I
> think I found a version of it online a few years ago and then decided
> I'd probably not use it, and no longer have it. You may be able to
> find it.... ASEAM (A Simplified Energy Analysis Method) uses a modified
> bin method approach for energy calcs.
>
> *James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP
> **www.buildingperformanceteam.com*
> <http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>*
> Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services
> *1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
> 616 450 8653
>
> *From:* bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> <mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>
> [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Randy
> Wilkinson
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 27, 2013 7:08 PM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> <mailto:bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] BIN Method Tool
>
> I have a program called TMY2BIN which converts freely available TMY2
> hourly weather files into bin weather files for use in simplified
> energy calculations. It does allow you to define occupancy hours.
> Cost is
> $25 Check it out at: http://www.hvacware.net
>
> I do not have any calculations for common ECM's that use this bin
> weather data. That's why you get the big bucks.
>
> Randy
>
> - -
> Randall C. Wilkinson, P.E., C.E.M.
> hvacware.net
> Spokane, WA
>
> On 13-08-27 02:56 PM, Mike Karpman wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know of any current tools that use the BIN method? I am
> imagining something that both processes weather data into BINs
> (taking into account occupied versus unoccupied times), and maybe
> includes some templates for common energy efficiency measures?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Karpman
>
> *Karpman Consulting*
>
> (860) 430-9110
>
> 41C New London Turnpike
>
> Glastonbury, CT 06033
>
>
>
>
>
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