[Bldg-sim] Energy needs at an early design stage

Dennis Knight dknight at wholebuildingsystems.com
Thu Oct 24 08:02:06 PDT 2013


All,
This has been a great thread.  My experience has been that the early stage
models for building orientation and envelope optimization are not of much
use, other than the insight gained from the exercise, when you move from
that phase of the project to system sizing and equipment selection during
the design phase, whether your are working with a manual input workflow
into a simulation tool or trying to automate the input through Sketchup,
Revit, Bentley, ArchiCAD, etc.  Load calculations, equipment sizing, air
distribution system device and distribution system design and selection
pretty much demand room-by-room analysis.  Its hard to take conceptual
models, exterior surface area models, massing and "shoe-box" models and
grow them into room-by-room models using the same original input files.
 I'm very interested in what you all have to say about this process and
does any of these tools make the transition from concept to full blown
design any less painfull?
Dennis


On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, <Dru.Crawley at bentley.com> wrote:

>  In addition to being able to do EnergyPlus simulation during conceptual
> design using AECOsim Energy Simulator , users can also do ASHRAE heating
> and cooling load calculations and look at ASHRAE Standards 90.1 and 62.1
> prescriptive and whole-building energy compliance (90.1 ECB and PRM (App G).
> ****
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> To see the conceptual modeling capabilities, it starts about 6:30 mins
> into this video:  http://youtu.be/ZFuKIISoVhk****
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> *From:* Dru Crawley
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:53 AM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* RE: Energy needs at an early design stage****
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> Bentley Systems’ AECOsim Energy Simulator has a conceptual mode – about 10
> inputs (mostly from drop-down boxes), draw the outline of the footprint,
> select from a dozen preconfigured HVAC system (drag-and-drop components,
> all 90.1 required baseline and budget systems), and simulate.  And it uses
> EnergyPlus.  Once your conceptual model is ready, you can modify all the
> default parameters.****
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> Free, 30-day trial available from:
> http://www.bentley.com/en-US/Products/AECOsim+Energy+Simulator/****
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> *From:* bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
> mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Wagemakers, Jens (2034464)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 23, 2013 6:23 AM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Bldg-sim] [Spam:*****] Energy needs at an early design stage**
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> Dear all, ****
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> Does anyone of you know a software program which I can use to calculate
> the energy needs of a building (installed power) at an early stage
> (design). With the usual programs like EnergyPlus or Trnsys you need to
> insert a lot of parameters to get the information, parameters which  just
> aren’t allways available in the design stage.
> The calculations don’t have to be very precise, I’m looking for a tool
> which can give an acceptable result, so we can give our customer an idea of
> how much power is needed for a certain building.****
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> Greatfully,****
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> Jens Wagemakers (The Netherlands)****
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*W*hole *B*uilding *S*ystems, LLC
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