[Bldg-sim] Radiance and Open studio

[Anna Shadrina]

P.S. those who are interested can follow the thread here
https://unmethours.com/question/8347/open-studio-does-not-find-radiance/

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Anna Shadrina <neko.enko at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for your replies!
>
> Christoph,
>
> I am more than comfortable with Rhino, sice my background is in
> architecture, but at the small engineering company where I am working now
> they do not use this tool. My task was to demonstrate and (maybe) introduce
> Energy Plus and Radiance to the comapy's routine. As for energy plus,
> additionally to compare it with the local competitor in Austria from
> Pokorny tec (http://www.pokorny-tec.at/). If one can call the commercial
> software a "competitor" to the non-commercial...
>
> Robert,
>
> following your advice, I installed Energy plus into the default folder and
> located it again via "scan for tools". This way I only managed to get rid
> of the minor error (URL Found in IDF:
> file:files/AUT_Vienna.Schwechat.110360_IWEC.epw but no source could be
> located.) I call it minor because I saw it appearing in the error list in
> the tutorial, where the rest of the functions were working.
>
> as for the
> The job in
> 'C:/Users/labor/AppData/Local/Temp/OpenStudio.wh4932/resources/run/1-Ruby-0/in/model/radiance/gen_eplus/2-ExpandObjects-0'
> did not finish successfully.
>
> ERROR: No tool matching: expandobjects 8.2.-.-
>
>
> and
>
> failed to run ModelToRad
>
>
> it is still there. See the report attached.
>
>
> I will duplicate my comment to the Unmet hours forum as well.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Guglielmetti, Robert <
> Robert.Guglielmetti at nrel.gov> wrote:
>
>> Hi Christoph,
>>
>> Apologies, when I said "Daysim" in my head of course I was saying "DIVA".
>> We regret the omission.
>>
>> OpenStudio does not perform sDA and ASE calculations, however it does do
>> all the other common daylight metrics, _including blinds_, and seamlessly
>> merges the electric lighting results with a whole building energy model. It
>> is this latter point that I hang my hat on. We chose to focus on the whole
>> building integration aspect to the detriment of newer metrics and better
>> interfaces for data visualization. It's a process...
>>
>> - Rob
>>
>> On 6/9/15, 7:25 AM, "Christoph Reinhart" <tito_ at mit.edu<mailto:
>> tito_ at mit.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Dear Anna,
>>
>>
>>
>> If you are comfortable using Rhino, check out DIVA (http://diva4rhino.com)
>> as well. We have tutorials and exercises for download here
>> http://web.mit.edu/sustainabledesignlab/projects/DaylightingHandbook/resources.htm
>>  with more coming within the coming 2 weeks. Our next DIVA training near
>> you will be in London at the Architecture Association on Oct 22-24 before
>> and after DIVA DAY 2015 (http://diva4rhino.com/diva-day-2015).
>>
>>
>>
>> Rob, to my knowledge DIVA was the first and remains the only tool
>> supporting LEED v4 daylighting credit analysis including blinds use at the
>> whole building level. I am of course happy to learn otherwise.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Christoph
>> Christoph Reinhart
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Architecture
>> Massachusetts Institute of Technology
>> 77 Massachusetts Ave, Rm 5-418, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA
>> t: 617 253 7714, f: 617 253 6152, creinhart at mit.edu<mailto:
>> creinhart at mit.edu>
>> Sustainable Design Lab<http://mit.edu/SustainableDesignLab/>|DIVA<
>> http://www.diva4rhino.com/>| Daysim<http://daysim.ning.com/>| mapdwell<
>> http://www.mapdwell.com/>| umi<http://www.urbanmodeling.net/>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Events  Modeling Urban Sustainability<
>> http://architecture.mit.edu/event/modeling-urban-sustainability-energy-daylight-and-walkability>|
>> DIVA Day 2015 <http://diva4rhino.com/diva-day-2015>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bldg-sim [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf
>> Of Guglielmetti, Robert
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 9:13 AM
>> To: Anna Shadrina; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org<mailto:
>> bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Radiance and Open studio
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Anna,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have seen people report success when they reinstall EnergyPlus after
>> the OpenStudio installation.
>>
>>
>>
>> There was a similar comment regarding Radiance alternatives on Unmet
>> Hours recently, and I'll repost my response to that here:
>>
>>
>>
>> The Radiance functionality in OpenStudio is constantly improving, and
>> indeed we have a lot planned for the fall release. That said, other options
>> for using Radiance to evaluate daylighting abound, with Daysim, Honeybee,
>> SPOT and LightStanza coming to mind. I would selfishly point out that
>> technically all of these options are "limited" in one way or another;
>> OpenStudio focuses on whole building integration of daylighting results,
>> and does that the best of all the options, while being limited in other
>> ways (which we are working on rectifying).
>>
>>
>>
>> - Rob
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/9/15, 3:06 AM, "Anna Shadrina" <neko.enko at gmail.com<mailto:
>> neko.enko at gmail.com<mailto:neko.enko at gmail.com%
>> 3cmailto:neko.enko at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am just starting to use Radiance on Windows, I did the basic course on
>> Linux before (or on the virtual machine on Windows) and used Open studio
>> plugin for energy plus models.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working with Open studio 1.7.0. and have installed Radiance 5.0 on
>> windows. I have created the simple model in Sketchup and inserted the
>> illuminance map, glare sensor and daylighting control in the thermal zone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nevertheless, during the daylight simulation Open studio does not seem to
>> detect the certain file "expandobjects 8.2." (the full error list is
>> attached). Even though I performed "Scan for tools" operation.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the open studio forum "unmet hours" people seem to report similar
>> problems, but it was promised to be solved in 1.7 version... Also it was
>> said that Open studio somehow is only able to locate Energy plus when it is
>> installed in the default folder. But it has nothing to do with Radiance,
>> right?..
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone experienced something similar?
>>
>> Is there any better way to use Radiance on Windows apart from Open studio?
>>
>>
>>
>> My .OSM model is attached.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Anna Shadrina
>>
>>
>>
>> MSc student Building Science
>>
>> Vienna University of Technology
>>
>> Vienna, Austria
>>
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> Anna Shadrina
>
> MSc student Building Science
> Vienna University of Technology
> Vienna, Austria
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Anna Shadrina

MSc student Building Science
Vienna University of Technology
Vienna, Austria
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