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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Hotel: Unitary + PTAC Node Problem



Thanks Mike.  Your advice did the trick.

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte" 
<mjwitte@...> wrote:
>
> Just to further clarify, the CONTROLLED ZONE EQUIP 
CONFIGURATION "Node List or 
> Node Name: Zone Air Inlet Node(s)" field must be a NODE LIST name 
which lists 
> both the direct air and PTAC inlet nodes.  So the quickest fix 
lies in the 
> CONTROLLED ZONE EQUIP CONFIGURATION and NODE LIST objects.  For 
example, for 
> zone 1E
> 
> ---- existing ------
> 
> CONTROLLED ZONE EQUIP CONFIGURATION,
>     1E,                      !- Zone Name
>     1E Equipment,            !- List Name: Zone Equipment
>     1E Zone Equip Inlet,     !- Node List or Node Name: Zone Air 
Inlet Node(s)
> . . .
> 
> 
> NODE LIST,
> 1E Zone Equip Inlet,     !- Node List Name
> Zone1E_PTACAirOutletNode;!- Node_ID_1
> 
> ---- Fixed ------
> 
> CONTROLLED ZONE EQUIP CONFIGURATION,
>     1E,                      !- Zone Name
>     1E Equipment,            !- List Name: Zone Equipment
>     1E Zone Equip Inlet Nodes, !- Node List or Node Name: Zone Air 
Inlet 
> Node(s)
> . . .
> 
> 
> NODE LIST,
> 1E Zone Equip Inlet Nodes,  !- Node List Name
> 1E Zone Equip Inlet,     !- Node_ID_1
> Zone1E_PTACAirOutletNode;!- Node_ID_2
> 
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> On 5 Dec 2006 at 15:18, Richard Raustad wrote:
> 
> > You are getting confused with the node names for the PTHP 
inlet/outlet 
> > and the air loop inlet/outlet node names. You have connected the 
PTHP 
> > outlet node to the air loop and direct air unit through a node 
list. 
> > Keep the node names for the PTHP inlet/outlet nodes separate 
from the 
> > node names for the air loop. The direct air unit is the zone 
connection 
> > for the air loop, not the PTHP. See the example file for 
> > PackagedTerminalHeatPump for connection details. I suggest you 
write out 
> > all example file node names for at least a single zone on a 
piece of 
> > paper so you can see the connections more clearly.
> > 
> >           Air Loop 1
> >     |--------|
> > ____|________|_____
> > | Zone1    Zone1   |
> > |Supply   Return   |
> > | Node1    Node    |
> > |                  |
> > |            Zone1 |_____
> > |           Supply |    |
> > |            Node2 |    |
> > |                  |   PTHP1
> > |                  |    |
> > |                  |    |
> > |            Zone1 |-----
> > |          Exhaust |
> > |            Node  |
> > -------------------
> > 
> > PACKAGEDTERMINAL:HEATPUMP:AIRTOAIR,
> >     Zone1EPTAC,              !- Heat pump name
> >     FanAndCoilAvailSched,    !- Availability schedule name
> >     Zone1E_PTACAirInletNode, !- Air inlet node name
> >  >>>>Zone1E_PTACAirOutletNode,!- Air outlet node name
> >     Zone1E_PTACOAInNode,     !- Outside air node name
> >     Zone1E_PTACExhNode,      !- Relief air node name
> >     Zone1E_PTACOAMixer,      !- Outside air mixer name
> >     autosize,                !- Supply air volumetric flow rate 
during 
> > cooling operation {m3/s}
> >     autosize,                !- Supply air volumetric flow rate 
during 
> > heating operation {m3/s}
> >     autosize,                !- Supply air volumetric flow rate 
when no 
> > cooling or heating is needed {m3/s}
> >     autosize,                !- Outside air volumetric flow rate 
during 
> > cooling operation {m3/s}
> >     autosize,                !- Outside air volumetric flow rate 
during 
> > heating operation {m3/s}
> >     autosize,                !- Outside air volumetric flow rate 
when no 
> > cooling or heating is needed {m3/s}
> >     FAN:SIMPLE:ONOFF,        !- Supply air fan type
> >     1E PTAC Supply Fan,      !- Supply air fan name
> >     COIL:DX:HeatingEmpirical,!- Heating coil type
> >     1E PTAC DX Heating Coil, !- Heating coil name
> >     0.001,                   !- Heating convergence tolerance 
> > {dimensionless}
> >     -8,                      !- Minimum outdoor dry-bulb 
temperature for 
> > compressor operation {C}
> >     COIL:DX:CoolingBypassFactorEmpirical,  !- Cooling coil type
> >     1E PTAC Cooling Coil,    !- Cooling coil name
> >     0.001,                   !- Cooling convergence tolerance 
> > {dimensionless}
> >     COIL:ELECTRIC:HEATING,   !- Supplemental heating coil type
> >     1E PTAC Heating Coil,    !- Supplemental heating coil name
> >     autosize,                !- Maximum supply air temperature 
from 
> > supplemental heater {C}
> >     21,                      !- Maximum outdoor dry-bulb 
temperature for 
> > supplemental heater operation {C}
> >     blow through,            !- Fan placement
> >     ContFanCycComp;          !- Heat pump operating mode
> > 
> > NODE LIST,
> > ----1E Zone Equip Inlet,     !- Node List Name
> >  >>>>Zone1E_PTACAirOutletNode;!- Node_ID_1
> > 
> > DIRECT AIR,
> >     1E Direct Air,           !- Direct Air Name
> >     COMPACT HVAC-ALWAYS 1,   !- Schedule name for on/off schedule
> > ----1E Zone Equip Inlet,     !- Zone Supply Air Node Name
> >     autosize;                !- Maximum air flow rate {m3/s}
> > 
> > 
> > noelcrrl wrote:
> > 
> > > I am simulating a compact unitary system with PTAC units. The 
purpose
> > > of this is to model an HVAC system in a hotel. I have 
integrated both
> > > systems into the model, but I have encountered an error that I 
have
> > > not been able to resolve. It seems that I have improperly 
designated
> > > the zone air inlet nodes for each zone. I receive the 
following error
> > > for all zones with the compact unitary and PTAC combination:
> > >
> > > ** Severe ** Node Connection Error, 
Node="ZONE1E_PTACAIROUTLETNODE",
> > > The same node appears as a non-parent Outlet node more than 
once.
> > > ** ~~~ ** Reference Object=ZONE SPLITTER, Name=1E ZONE SPLITTER
> > > ** ~~~ ** Reference Object=COIL:ELECTRIC:HEATING,
> > > Name=1E PTAC HEATING COIL
> > >
> > > Any ideas on how to fix this? I have posted the file as a 
reference.
> > >
> > > File Description: Hotel: Unitary + PTAC Node Problem
> > >
> > >  
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Richard A. Raustad
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> > Florida Solar Energy Center
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