[Equest-users] eQuest Design Days

Carol Gardner gems at spiritone.com
Thu Aug 28 12:31:36 PDT 2008


Todd,

If you put in any data at all in the DD screens and run eQUEST it will 
do the DD sizing off that information. If you delete the data on those 
screens, however, and let the model run using the TMY data you should 
get output that looks more like what you want. The TMY data extremes are 
frequently higher than the DD input from ASHRAE and do include all the 
solar info. Try it out and see what you think.

Carol

Todd Lagus wrote:
> Thanks for your input Carol.
>
> I think my main concern is that the sizing peaks aren't necessarily going to occur in the summer.  Say you have a building with a lot of south facing glass.  This space may peak in October.  I did a quick validation model in eQuest and another peak sizing program to see how different the loads would be for such a case.  The eQuest model solar gains were only about 35% of what the sizing program calculated.  I believe this is because the sizing program always assumes a clear day to size equipment for peaks, while the eQuest weather files use average data.  Each kind of calculation serves a purpose, one for sizing and one for simulation, but relying on the simulation weather file to size equipment seems risky.  Everything may turn out ok in these cases because the temperature is less in October than in the summer, but I'm not to a point where I'd trust it yet.  
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> Thanks,
>
> Todd
>
>  
> Todd Lagus, EIT
> Mechanical Engineer
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> Todd,
>
> I have been told in the past that it is best to use the TMY weather file 
> rather than the Design Day input. If you use the TMY3 file you should 
> have all the latest weather/solar info. Just do as you would with DD 
> calcs: revise you schedules for summer hottest day with everything on 
> and winter coldest day dead of night with everything off, set your 
> sizing factors to what you want and hit enter. This should give you good 
> output. Be sure to have all the wall/glass info in that you want and be 
> sure you have the right thermostat type and throttling range for it 
> based on your HVAC system type.
>
> Carol
>
> Todd Lagus wrote:
>   
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Has anyone ever tried to use eQuest for sizing equipment? I know about 
>> the design day input, but it only allows for a single design day, 
>> which doesn't necessarily cover all of the bases for solar angles. 
>> Based on the standard TMY2 weather files, I know that shouldn't be 
>> done, but has anyone ever created some design day weather files? I'm 
>> especially suspicious of the equipment sizing due to the sunlight 
>> clarity factors. It would save a lot of time if eQuest could do design 
>> day and simulation calculations that could be trusted, but I'm not 
>> sure if there is a time effective way to do it. Any input would be 
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Todd
>>
>> **Todd Lagus, EIT**
>>
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