[Equest-users] General Advice

John Aulbach jra_sac at yahoo.com
Mon Sep 14 14:30:37 PDT 2009


You GO, Lars. Experience in this program is the best teacher.

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Lars Fetzek <lfetzek at phoenixeng.us> wrote:

From: Lars Fetzek <lfetzek at phoenixeng.us>
Subject: [Equest-users] General Advice
To: "'Lars Fetzek'" <lfetzek at phoenixeng.us>, equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 2:12 PM



 
 
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eQuesters,
 
    I have solved my problem, described 
below (from previous e-mails).  My solution leads me to send the following 
advice to everyone:
 
    Be aware that adding comments (i.e. 
text preceded by a dollar sign) in a .inp file, even at the end of an already 
functional line of code, can cause mysterious problems in eQuest's 
interpretation of other (seemingly unrelated) lines of code.
 
Lars Fetzek, EI
Phoenix Engnineering Group
Tampa, Florida
 



From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Lars 
Fetzek
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 4:04 PM
To: 
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Error 
question



eQuesters & Brett,
 
    Thanks for your help, Brett.  The 
BDL file shows the following.  It also showed the same error with or 
without quotes around the U-name in line 3017 and with or without the $ in line 
3010.  Evidently, eQuest is just not recognizing the parent system that I 
defined line lines 2994 - 3016.
    Does anyone know why this would be - 
especially when, as explained in the original e-mail (below), I based this code 
on that generated by eQuest?
 
Lars Fetzek, EI
Phoenix Engineering Group
Tampa, Florida
 
 
    *2988 * $ 
*********************************************************
     
*2989 * $ 
**                                                     
**
     *2990 * $ 
**               
HVAC Systems / 
Zones                  
**
     *2991 * $ 
**                                                     
**
     *2992 * $ 
*********************************************************
     
*2993 *  
     *2994 * "HVAC1 System" = 
SYSTEM
     *2995 *    
TYPE             = 
PVAVS
     *2996 *    
HEAT-SOURCE      = NONE
     
*2997 *    ZONE-HEAT-SOURCE = 
ELECTRIC
     *2998 *    BASEBOARD-SOURCE 
= NONE
     *2999 *    
SIZING-RATIO     = 1.15
     *3000 
*    MAX-SUPPLY-T     = 
95
     *3001 *    
MIN-SUPPLY-T     = 55
     *3002 
*    ECONO-LIMIT-T    = 
65
     *3003 *    
ECONO-LOCKOUT    = YES
     *3004 
*    OA-CONTROL       = 
FIXED
     *3005 *    
FAN-SCHEDULE     = "HVAC1 Fan 
Sch"
     *3006 *    
FAN-CONTROL      = 
FAN-EIR-FPLR
     *3007 *    
SUPPLY-STATIC    = 3.569
     *3008 
*    SUPPLY-EFF       = 
0.521452
     *3009 *    
RETURN-EFF       = 
0.53
     *3010 * $   
FAN-EIR-FPLR     = "Variable Speed Drive 
FPLR"
     *3011 *    
REHEAT-DELTA-T   = 15
     *3012 
*    COOLING-CAPACITY = 379900
     *3013 
*    COOLING-EIR      = 
0.324232
     *3014 *    
CRANKCASE-HEAT   = 0
     *3015 
*    FURNACE-HIR      = 
1.24067
     *3016 *    
..
     *3017 * Zone-Space-1A = 
ZONE
*ERROR****************************************************************************************
*ERROR*****A 
PARENT SYSTEM must be defined before you can define this 
ZONE
     *3018 *    
TYPE             = 
CONDITIONED
     *3019 *    
MIN-FLOW-RATIO   = 0.3
     *3020 
*    FLOW/AREA        = 
0.5
     *3021 *    
OA-FLOW/PER      = 155.325
     
*3022 *    EXHAUST-FLOW     = 
1130
     *3023 *    
EXHAUST-STATIC   = 0.75
     *3024 
*    EXHAUST-EFF      = 
0.411758
     *3025 *    
DESIGN-HEAT-T    = 68
     *3026 
*    HEAT-TEMP-SCH    = "HVAC1 Heat 
Sch"
     *3027 *    
DESIGN-COOL-T    = 76
     *3028 
*    COOL-TEMP-SCH    = "HVAC1 Cool 
Sch"
     *3029 *    
SIZING-OPTION    = ADJUST-LOADS
     *3030 
*    
SPACE            = "Space 
1A Space"
     *3031 *    
..



From: Brett Fero [mailto:bfero at robsonwoese.com] 

Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:22 PM
To: Lars Fetzek; 
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Error 
question




Lars, 
   
My 
suggestion would be to open the bdl file and search for “error”.  This will 
indicated direct you to where error occurred.  Too many errors and eQuest 
gives up. 
   
If 
you are manually editing the inp file, make sure you have two periods “..” at 
the end of you commands as required.   
   

Brett 
Fero, P.E., LEED AP 
RobsonWoese 
Inc. 
bfero at robsonwoese.com 
   


From: 
equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Lars 
Fetzek
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 3:08 PM
To: 
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Error 
question 
   
eQuesters, 
  
    
I included the following text in my .inp file, copied-and-pasted from an .inp 
file that eQuest generated.  My intention is to edit it to reflect the 
conditions of the present project, which I really really don't want to have to 
re-create in the wizard, since I've already composed about 3,000 lines of .inp 
code for complex geometry, schedules, etc.  As of yet, the only thing that 
I've edited are the U-names referring to the fan schedule, the heat schedule, 
the cool schedule, and the space - so that they match the present project.  
Scrolling down in this e-mail, you'll see the lovely error messages that appear 
when I load the .inp file into eQuest.  Can anyone tell me what is 
wrong and how to fix it?  (Yes, I clicked on the errors, but eQuest 
tells me nothing helpful.) 
    
By the way, my concern here is only with HVAC errors and not with the electric 
meter error, which simply results from me having commented-out the electric 
meter code in the .inp file. 
    
Thanks if you have advice... 
  
Lars 
Fetzek, EI 
Phoenix 
Engineering Group 
Tampa, 
Florida 
  
  
$ 
*********************************************************
$ 
**                                                     
**
$ 
**               
HVAC Systems / 
Zones                  
**
$ 
**                                                     
**
$ 
********************************************************* 

  
"HVAC1 
System" = SYSTEM          

   
TYPE             = 
PVAVS
   HEAT-SOURCE      = 
NONE
   ZONE-HEAT-SOURCE = ELECTRIC
   
BASEBOARD-SOURCE = NONE
   SIZING-RATIO     = 
1.15
   MAX-SUPPLY-T     = 95
   
MIN-SUPPLY-T     = 55
   
ECONO-LIMIT-T    = 65
   
ECONO-LOCKOUT    = YES
   
OA-CONTROL       = FIXED
   
FAN-SCHEDULE     = "HVAC1 Fan Sch"
   
FAN-CONTROL      = FAN-EIR-FPLR
   
SUPPLY-STATIC    = 3.569
   
SUPPLY-EFF       = 0.521452
   
RETURN-EFF       = 0.53
   
FAN-EIR-FPLR     = "Variable Speed Drive 
FPLR"
   REHEAT-DELTA-T   = 15
   
COOLING-CAPACITY = 379900
   
COOLING-EIR      = 0.324232
   
CRANKCASE-HEAT   = 0
   
FURNACE-HIR      = 1.24067
   ..
"Zone 
Space 1A" = 
ZONE            

   
TYPE             = 
CONDITIONED
   MIN-FLOW-RATIO   = 0.3
   
FLOW/AREA        = 0.5
   
OA-FLOW/PER      = 155.325
   
EXHAUST-FLOW     = 1130
   
EXHAUST-STATIC   = 0.75
   
EXHAUST-EFF      = 0.411758
   
DESIGN-HEAT-T    = 68
   
HEAT-TEMP-SCH    = "HVAC1 Heat Sch"
   
DESIGN-COOL-T    = 76
   
COOL-TEMP-SCH    = "HVAC1 Cool Sch"
   
SIZING-OPTION    = ADJUST-LOADS
   
SPACE            = "Space 
1A Space"
   .. 
  
  
 

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