[Equest-users] FW: exterior lighting, non HVAC loads, Wizards

[Bruce Easterbrook]

     I normally start in the SD wizard only because it is the first 
wizard and does what I need to do for the first floor.  It does offer 
around 40 screens where the DD wizard uses 25 per shell.  I design 
building systems from scratch and don't do any LEED work.  I do lots of 
energy consumption improvement work as well.  But either way the 
building is normally already defined by the actual building or by the 
architect.  My primary purpose initially is to get the building model in 
and functioning ASAP.  I auto-size everything and just deal with BDL 
errors.  SD will do this.  Custom footprint, custom zones.  Rarely will 
I have a building that does not have a reason to use the DD wizard, so I 
always end up there to add more shells and almost always to add more 
HVAC systems.  This is where I start and mostly finish flushing out the 
finer details.  Heat loss provides the initial data I need, ASHRAE 62.1 
is next.  Then a check on existing systems or the Architects 
guesstimate.  After that it is all negotiation.
Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
Abode Engineering

On 02/08/2010 10:49 AM, Keith Swartz wrote:
>
> Nick,
>
> The SD Wizard allows prefixes and/or suffixes to be assigned to 
> building components. This could be useful if the model has a campus of 
> multiple buildings and you use a prefix or suffix to identify which 
> building the component is associated with. The entries are at the end 
> of the last screen (Screen 41).
>
> Another possible reason to start with the SD Wizard is when you don't 
> know much about the building and you are going to use nearly all of 
> the program defaults anyway and you don't have  much time. For 
> example, if you have a meeting in less than an hour where the boss 
> needs some numbers, there are simply fewer screens to go through in 
> the SD Wizard than in the DD Wizard.
>
> Personally I hardly ever use the SD Wizard. When I first started using 
> eQUEST I started with the SD Wizard, then moved on to the DD Wizard, 
> but I didn't see any benefit from starting in the SD Wizard. Unless 
> it's a panic situation or I am dealing with a campus and want to use a 
> prefix or suffix, I just start with the DD Wizard.
>
> ________________________________
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> Keith Swartz, P.E., LEED AP
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> *From:* Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton at smithboucher.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, August 02, 2010 8:34 AM
> *To:* Bruce Easterbrook; Keith Swartz
> *Cc:* eQuest; Yehuda Israel
> *Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] exterior lighting, non HVAC loads.
>
> To add a small bit:
>
> While we can define exterior lighting loads (in W/ft^2... how 
> intuitive!) in either SD or DD wizards, I only ever do so if I must 
> stay out of detailed edit for some reason.  In detailed, as described 
> below, you can (1) enter the fully connected load as you might tally 
> it from the design, in kW, and (2) you may assign a variety of 
> scheduling to accurately model the consumption (photocell 
> controls/timers/fractional loads/etc...).
>
> Related Question/Food for thought:  If I'm not mistaken, there's 
> nothing in the SD wizard screens you can't do in the DD wizards, which 
> offer more flexibility (>2 systems/multiple shells)... Am I missing 
> some compelling reason to start a project in SD vs. DD wizards?
>
> ~Nick
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> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Bruce Easterbrook
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 31, 2010 8:45 AM
> *To:* Keith Swartz
> *Cc:* 'eQuest'; Yehuda Israel
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] exterior lighting, non HVAC loads.
>
> You may need to be in the DD wizard to do this.  The project I have 
> open is beyond the SD.  Finish all your basic setup in the SD wizard 
> for the first floor and change to DD wizard.  Use a copy and nothing 
> is lost.  I will stay for hours or days at the finish button of the 
> Project Navigator in the DD wizard doing incremental edits, saving 
> each time.  Each time you press finish your project is run, confirming 
> equest is happy with your changes.  In building shell, using the 
> action tab select, building creation wizard, and it will bring up the 
> project navigator after a warning about losing everything you entered 
> in detailed edit.  Be working with a copy and ignore the warning.  
> Don't add anything after this screen and you have nothing to lose.  
> You can also go back and forth as many times as you like.  Select your 
> Bldg Envelope and Loads 1, that should be all you have coming from the 
> SD wizard.  To add the Keith's post, you may need to go to screen 15 
> first, non-HVAC End uses to Model, select exterior lighting, select 
> mode.  This will turn on screen 23, go there next, set your W/sq.m and 
> you profile details.  Note screen 15 is a gateway to adding many other 
> options and turning on other screens.  If you are missing screens you 
> need to go to earlier pages and find the check box to open other 
> screens you may wish to add information on.
> Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
> Abode Engineering
>
> On 30/07/2010 06:29 PM, Keith Swartz wrote:
>
> Yehuda,
>
> If you are in the DD wizard, you can enter exterior lighting on Screen 
> 23 of the building shell screens. The area for the watts per square 
> foot is the interior building floor area, not any exterior surface area.
>
> If you are in the Detailed Interface, click on "Utility & Economics" 
> in the upper right. In the Component Tree list on the left side of the 
> screen, select "Electric Meters." At the top of the screen, select the 
> Display Mode to be "Electric Meter -- Direct Loads -- Exterior." Here 
> you can enter the exterior lighting loads in kW (instead of W/sf like 
> in the wizard).
>
> ________________________________
>
> Keith Swartz, P.E., LEED AP
>
>
> Energy Engineer / Senior Project Manager
> *Energy Center of Wisconsin*
> 455 Science Drive, Suite 200, Madison, WI 53711
> Phone: 608.238.8276 x123
> Fax: 608.238.0523
>
> *The Buildings Team*
>
> /Design decisions through energy, economics and emissions analysis./
>
> www.ecw.org/Buildings <http://www.ecw.org/Buildings>
>
>
> *Energy Center University
> */Your gateway to sustainable design training and online education 
> programs.
> /www.ecw.org/university/ <http://www.ecw.org/university/>
>
> *From:* Yehuda Israel [mailto:Yehuda at newsource-energy.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, July 30, 2010 1:55 PM
> *To:* 'eQuest'
> *Cc:* Bobby Frank; 'Hanan Waizman'; 'Howard F. Israel'
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] (no subject)
>
> To all:
>
> I am trying to model an outdoor park lot that has outside lights.  How 
> do I add the lights to my building model?
>
> Thank you.
>
> *Yehuda Israel*,
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