[Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone groupdefinitions

[Pasha Korber-Gonzalez]

Since I'm still learning and experiencing this wizard tool for zone groups,
how or where do you assign different occupancy types/schedules to different
areas?  Let's say for example i had a building with retail on the ground
floor and residential on the upper floors, how or where do I select two
different sets of operating schedules for the two different types of
spaces?  Or can this even be done from this function.

Before I knew how to do this zone grouping thing in the wizard I would have
input these two different spaces as separate shells so that I could classify
them with different schedules...

am I missing something or not?

thanks,
Pasha

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com> wrote:

>  For completeness, for those learning or re-learning these wizard screens,
> let me offer a related caution:
>
>
>
> I always end up defining my own zone groups to be sure everything has the
> occupancy scheduling that fits best, however there’s a hidden danger:  *DO
> NOT* delete the default zone groups before *first* creating a new one.
>  You will otherwise potentially crash out your wizard model and be unable to
> move forward.  I’ve done this twice (fool me once…), so it’s pretty well
> ingrained in my active memory – but hopefully this will help others avoid a
> headache!
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> ~Nick
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Brooks
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 07, 2010 11:53 AM
> *To:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez
> *Cc:* eQuest user forum
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone
> groupdefinitions
>
>
>
> Thank you so much.  YOur description is how I thought things would/should
> work, but, as Ronnie said many years ago "Trust, but verify"!
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> I am again a happy camper for now.
>
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> *From:* Pasha Korber-Gonzalez <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
> *To:* Paul Brooks <equestpaul at yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* eQuest user forum <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> *Sent:* Wed, July 7, 2010 12:46:54 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] activity area allocation and zone group
> definitions
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
> These screens were an anomolie (sp?) to me until just this year thanks to a
> younger fellow simulator who uses them quite efficiently.  In fact, I always
> skipped out of the wizard when it came to these screens until I took the
> time to learn how to readjust & reallocate the % space inputs on these
> screens.   After learning to do this I now spend less time on the back-end
> (ddedit mode) adjusting my HVAC system assignments... Yay!
>
>
>
> Here's my attempt to explain what I've learned.  I'll call out my colleague
> Dan W. for help on this one if I mess it up...
>
>
>
> Screen 13 is your % space based on the WHOLE BUILDING floor area.  When you
> move to screen 14 this is where you actually assign HVAC systems to your
> zone groups.  A zone group is a group of zones that can be assigned to the
> same HVAC system. (NOTE:  at this point you will want to have created your
> basic HVAC systems types already in the wizard.  This was a backward step
> for me at first, but it works for when you switch to ddedit mode.)
>
>
>
> So in  screen 14 the % space for zone groups is based on the total floor
> area of all the zones you want to group together.  (at this point you should
> also have a basic take off of floor area for your thermal zones.)  Now after
> you have "grouped" your zones that you want together you need to revise the
> % space numbers in the top of the screen.   (I've included a screen shot of
> one of my models where I used the zone groups.)  Note how I have zeroed-out
> some of the % space input for other zones that I have not grouped into my
> specific group I'm calling "Conference Center."   With the revised % space
> numbers make sure that they add up to 100%.
>
>
>
> So to answer your question, when you use Screen 14 correctly these inputs
> will override screen 13.   If I should clarify anything better let me know.
>
>
>
> Pasha
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>
>
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Paul Brooks <equestpaul at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any idea which of screen 13 or 14 in the DD wizard
> overides the other?  I am using zone group definitions to give dtail on how
> individual zone space is allocated (screen 14 of 25), but that does not seem
> to affect the activites area allocation, (screen 13 of 25).
>
>
>
> Anone have any thoughts or experience to share?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
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