[Equest-users] Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!

James Hansen JHANSEN at ghtltd.com
Wed Jul 21 07:59:17 PDT 2010


Cooling towers are just fans, so it's no surprise that their percentage relative to the total consumption is small.  Make sure your cell KW or total fan EIR is accurate.

 

And as for your question on reset:  I usually just specify the condenser water loop control strategy to be LOAD RESET, with a minimum reset temperature of 70 degrees.  

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Omar Katanani
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:55 AM
To: Omar Katanani; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!

 

 

Dear all,

Can anyone please answer my question that I sent last week? Your continuous support is much appreciated!
In addition to that, I have this small question below:

Section G3.1.3.11 of ASHRAE 90.1 - 2007 says:

"Condenser water design supply temperature shall be 85°F or 10°F approaching design wet-bulb temperature, whichever is lower, with a design temperature rise of 10°F. The tower shall be controlled to maintain a 70°F leaving water temperature where weather permits, floating up to leaving water temperature at design conditions."

I was able to put the design set point temperature  and the loop design DT of the Condenser water loop to 85F and 10F respectively.

What about the tower? Where can I input this leaving temperature range from 70F up to the leaving water temperature?


Many thanks!
Omar
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-----Original Message-----
From: Omar Katanani
Sent: Thu 7/15/2010 1:54 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!



Dear all,



What are typical values for heat rejection, if my Space Cooling constitutes 25% of my school consumption? All I'm getting is 1% or so!



I left eQUEST to autosize the capacity of the tower, and I entered many default values into the inputs of the Open Tower and the Condenser Loop. I've heard that Heat Rejection in such climates such as Lebanon should reach at least 10%.



One more thing, when modeling the baseline case according to ASHRAE 90.1, I read that I should model a condenser water loop for each chiller. So if I have 2 chillers, will I need 2 Open Towers?



Many thanks,

Omar

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Sustainable Design Engineer

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Beirut, Lebanon

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