[Equest-users] Modifying Geometry

tim tim.jgrier at fuse.net
Wed Jul 21 10:29:23 PDT 2010


If you're complimenting me on my observation, my awareness must be at an
all-time high today.

 

How about a complex roof shape like the one attached?  Notice ridge lines
don't match and there is a gable at the porch end as well as the building
end.

 

Can equest do that too?  As long as one would put in the training time of
course.

 

Tim

 

 

From: Carol Gardner [mailto:cmg750 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 1:01 PM
To: tim
Cc: Omar Katanani; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modifying Geometry

 

Well, at least your powers of observation aren't suffering.

Yes, you can model individual ceiling heights per room. You can do almost
anything once you take the time to learn how. What are the specifics of what
you want to do: model a room with two different ceiling heights or model a
bunch of rooms with one height and a bunch with another height? A picture
would be great if ya have one.

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:56 AM, tim <tim.jgrier at fuse.net> wrote:

Wow - I think I struck a nerve.

 

On a related note.

Does equest have a way to model individual ceiling heights per room?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

From: Carol Gardner [mailto:cmg750 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 12:43 PM
To: tim
Cc: Omar Katanani; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org


Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modifying Geometry

 

I have got to protest this one, sorry Tim. 


Buying a Revit license to be able to accurately model geometry in eQUEST is,
to be blunt, crazy. It's really pretty easy to revise your geometry and if
you can't do that using one of the 3 methods I provided earlier, you need to
figure out how to train yourself better or leave the field. It's not just a
matter of being able to use eQUEST at this point, it's a matter of being
able to generate an accurate model using any tool. Being able to import CAD
or Revit data into energy models is a recent development. Frankly, I
question it's utility, especially if people now think they have to use it or
they can't model a building. Friendly front ends like eQUEST, DesignBuilder,
etc., are great but you need to know how a building operates and how the
systems work or it's just GIGO. 

Carol

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:29 AM, tim <tim.jgrier at fuse.net> wrote:

Omar

I haven't had much luck with customizing spaces either.  

I think there is a way to import a revit model file into equest.  If I
needed complicated zones & spatial geometry, I would probably consider a
revit license, but with that come's more money ($4-$6k for 1 standalone
license) and possibly more training, but might save a whole lot of headache.

 

Seems like equest is more of an energy modeler than an accurate building
modeler.

 

tim  

 

 

 

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Omar
Katanani
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 10:46 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Modifying Geometry

 

 

Dear all,

Once again, another problem!

I have several spaces which were geometrically modified in the design. For
example, a room that was split into two different ones; with each room being
a different hvac zone. How can I possibly split a room into two zones "1"
and "2"? Shall I modify the geometry of the old zone to be that of zone "1",
and then add another zone "2" from scratch? If this is what should be done,
how can I do this accurately?

Attached is the polygon view of one of my floors. When you look at them in
2-D or 3-D views, the building seems perfect in shape. Notice the rectangle
to the left of the picture! This is actually a zone that lies inside the
building. But it appears like this in polygon view. I think it is some
problem of coordinate references or so!
So when I need to modify the geometry according to coordinates of vertices,
I'm suffering!

Many thanks!
Omar

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