[Equest-users] Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!

Karen Walkerman kwalkerman at gmail.com
Wed Jul 21 18:46:29 PDT 2010


Also, the pumping energy for the cooling tower ends up in Pumps and
Auxiliary.  This number usually constitutes much of the energy used by the
cooling towers.

--
Karen

On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:59 AM, James Hansen <JHANSEN at ghtltd.com> wrote:

>  Cooling towers are just fans, so it’s no surprise that their percentage
> relative to the total consumption is small.  Make sure your cell KW or total
> fan EIR is accurate.
>
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> And as for your question on reset:  I usually just specify the condenser
> water loop control strategy to be LOAD RESET, with a minimum reset
> temperature of 70 degrees.
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Omar Katanani
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:55 AM
> *To:* Omar Katanani; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!
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> Dear all,
>
> Can anyone please answer my question that I sent last week? Your continuous
> support is much appreciated!
> In addition to that, I have this small question below:
>
> Section G3.1.3.11 of ASHRAE 90.1 - 2007 says:
>
> "Condenser water design supply temperature shall be 85°F or 10°F
> approaching design wet-bulb temperature, whichever is lower, with a design
> temperature rise of 10°F. The tower shall be controlled to maintain a 70°F
> leaving water temperature where weather permits, floating up to leaving
> water temperature at design conditions."
>
> I was able to put the design set point temperature  and the loop design DT
> of the Condenser water loop to 85F and 10F respectively.
>
> What about the tower? Where can I input this leaving temperature range from
> 70F up to the leaving water temperature?
>
>
> Many thanks!
> Omar
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Omar Katanani
> Sent: Thu 7/15/2010 1:54 PM
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Heat Rejection consumption is so small!!
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
>
>
> What are typical values for heat rejection, if my Space Cooling constitutes
> 25% of my school consumption? All I'm getting is 1% or so!
>
>
>
> I left eQUEST to autosize the capacity of the tower, and I entered many
> default values into the inputs of the Open Tower and the Condenser Loop.
> I've heard that Heat Rejection in such climates such as Lebanon should reach
> at least 10%.
>
>
>
> One more thing, when modeling the baseline case according to ASHRAE 90.1, I
> read that I should model a condenser water loop for each chiller. So if I
> have 2 chillers, will I need 2 Open Towers?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Omar
>
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