[Equest-users] Understanding Floors

[Nick Caton]

Peter, I think you might be leading yourself into some unnecessary
confusion with your word choices...

 

eQuest has 3 distinct entities:

-          Shells are simply groups of spaces

-          Spaces are geometrical volumes, which may or may not have
floors, walls, ceilings, windows, etc. tied to them.  Internal loads /
daylighting / occupancies are attributed to spaces.  

-          Zones are simple entities that include one or more spaces,
with additional HVAC attributes like thermostat and airflow specifics. 

 

You're using "floors" to interchangeable discuss all the above, it
seems.  For clarity when discussing eQuest, "floors" are merely the
constructions we walk on, normally one attribute of a "space."

 

All that said, it's entirely possible to model a "box within a box," as
you're describing.  You are limited in the wizards (by their nature)
with regard to defining zones/footprints... the best approach depends on
the nature of the space footprints you want to model.  If it's very
simply two stacked cubes enclosed within a larger cube, I'd personally
model one shell, with one space carved out of the middle.  Then I'd use
the detailed mode to shrink that space volume and partition/ceiling
dimensions to match the first floor office, then copy the entire space
and its componenents for the second floor.  I'd adjust the largest
cube's volume (it's a space property) to correct the conditioned volume,
and be sure all partitions are correctly associating the three spaces
together...  With all spaces sorted out, ensure your three spaces are
correctly grouped with regard to "zones," for association with your HVAC
system(s).

 

Clear as mud =)?

 

~Nick

 

 

 

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Peter
Hillermann
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 10:56 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Understanding Floors

 

To All,

 

I just want to make sure I understand the properties behind floors. If
you have a square building volume with a smaller square inside it that
has 2 levels. EG:- an atrium as main space with 2 levels that are
offices. There will be a total of 3 floors in your model. Atrium floor,
first floor office and second floor office. Each of these will have a
designated floor to floor height. You cannot put one zone inside another
on the same floor.

 

Is this correct?

 

Thanks, 

 

PETER HILLERMANN

 

peterh at westallarchitects.com

 

westall

architects

3404 pierce drive

chamblee, georgia 30341

 

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