[Equest-users] Modeling Courtyards

Alex Krickx akrickx at seriousmaterials.com
Wed Jun 16 15:34:38 PDT 2010


Thanks all for your responses. I think the fact that there are 3 different ways to model a courtyard (and that 3 suggestions have been made) shows how robust eQUEST really is. I wanted to make sure the "channel" approach which I used was appropriate and it seems that it is.

I think it would be really helpful if a courtyard was a default shape in the wizards. It would save a bit of playing in the DD mode.

And the reason for the funny shape of my zoning: I was trying to join those sections to the core, but due to the angle of my "channel" to the courtyard, it was hard to snap the zones around it.  I'll either make the channel straight or figure out another way to get the zoning more accurate.

Thanks again everyone! Your time and help are very much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Alex Krickx


Alex Krickx
Building Energy Specialist
[cid:image009.jpg at 01CB0D68.01A8A320]
1250 Elko Dr, Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(t) 408.541.8124

Warning: The information contained in this e-mail may be privileged attorney-client communications or attorney work product and/or proprietary and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient then you have received it in error and any review, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited and you are to notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message immediately.



From: Nick Caton [mailto:ncaton at smithboucher.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:20 PM
To: Otto Schwieterman; Alex Krickx; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Modeling Courtyards

Actually, provided you are eventually going into detailed mode, the method you're showing (using "cutting walls") can produce fewer adiabatic walls in the final result.

As an extension to this and a response to Otto's concern:  You will want to delete the two face-to-face exterior walls that will be generated by your footprint cut.  Doing so will not open the adjacent zones to the world, but will make those sides have no heat transfer to/from anything.

If you build two shells, you will have two sets of "cutting walls," where the two shells join.  The wizards can automate making the joining walls adiabatic, provided your footprint geometries are spot-on, but ultimately you have two adiabatic breaks in your building with that approach, whereas with this you have only one.  The other major advantage is you are minimizing the number of shells with this approach - very handy when you don't have to manipulate multiple schedules and such later on.

~Nick

PS: it seems curious - based on what little I can tell - that you've defined a custom "zoning pattern" that creates a perimeter zone on both sides of your shell "cut."  This may be intentional, but I would intuitively zone those areas to be tied to the core zone.

PPS: You may find much further discussion regarding this approach, if you wish, by searching for the terms "courtyard" and/or "cutting walls" in the archives.

[cid:image001.jpg at 01CB0D68.01A8A320]

NICK CATON, E.I.T.
PROJECT ENGINEER
25501 west valley parkway
olathe ks 66061
direct 913 344.0036
fax 913 345.0617
Check out our new web-site @ www.smithboucher.com

From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Otto Schwieterman
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:41 PM
To: Alex Krickx; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Modeling Courtyards

Alex,

Break the shell into two shells. If you create one shell where the walls are close but do not touch each other, you will have two exterior walls where you do not want them.

[cid:image008.jpg at 01CB0D68.01A8A320]

From: Alex Krickx [mailto:akrickx at seriousmaterials.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:24 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Modeling Courtyards

Hi all,

I'm hoping to get some advice on how to model a courtyard. I thought I've seen some emails floating around about them, but couldn't find anything in the archives. What's the best way to model a hole in a building? Any help on this would be much appreciated.


[cid:image008.jpg at 01CB0D68.01A8A320]

Regards,
Alex Krickx


Alex Krickx
Building Energy Specialist
[cid:image009.jpg at 01CB0D68.01A8A320]
1250 Elko Dr, Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(t) 408.541.8124

Warning: The information contained in this e-mail may be privileged attorney-client communications or attorney work product and/or proprietary and confidential.  If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient then you have received it in error and any review, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited and you are to notify us immediately by reply e-mail and delete the original message immediately.



________________________________________________________________________________________

Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc. intends to send this transmission (including any attachments) only to the

designated individual or entity.   If you received this message in error, please notify the sender by replying

to the electronic mail (if electronic) or by telephone at the number indicated on this document.

Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc. has taken reasonable precautions to ensure no viruses are present in the

electronic mail.  Fanning/Howey Associates, Inc., will not accept responsibility for any loss or damage arising

from the use of this electronic mail or attachments. Use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction

of this message by unintended recipients is not authorized and maybe unlawful.   Any information included in

this transmission that is not related to contracts with our authorization, verbal or written, by Fanning/Howey

Associates, Inc. may not be covered by our professional liability insurance.


-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0002.htm>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image001.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 1459 bytes
Desc: image001.jpg
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0006.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image006.png
Type: image/png
Size: 156 bytes
Desc: image006.png
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0004.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image007.png
Type: image/png
Size: 157 bytes
Desc: image007.png
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0005.png>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image008.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 37517 bytes
Desc: image008.jpg
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0007.jpg>
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: image009.jpg
Type: image/jpeg
Size: 5602 bytes
Desc: image009.jpg
URL: <http://lists.onebuilding.org/pipermail/equest-users-onebuilding.org/attachments/20100616/b8a4d856/attachment-0008.jpg>


More information about the Equest-users mailing list