[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 38, Issue 25

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Re: ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System

Dear Praveen,

This is also in connection to Nick's comment.

I have submitted a model with 4 buildings in a SINGLE model and that has
been certfied by LEED
 without any problem. I did not have any problem
in considering conditions of baseline on a building by building basis

Anura

From: Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
To: Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:37:11 +0530
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System


On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 2:03 AM, <equest-users-request at lists.onebuilding.org
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>   1. Re: Excel Based schedule maker? (Varkie C Thomas)
>   2. Tsinghua and other North China Universities (Arpan Bakshi)
>   3. Exterior Lighting (Brian Goldsmith)
>   4. Re: ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System (Praveen Jain)
>   5. Error in Evaluating BudgetConversion Rulelist: table      look-up
>      error (Anja Mitschelen)
>   6. Re: Exterior Lighting (Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr.)
>   7. Re: ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System (Bruce Easterbrook)
>   8. Re: ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System (Demba Ndiaye)
>   9. Re: ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System (Paul Riemer)
>  10. Second try - how many DX curves to customize? (R B)
>  11. Need help with Schedules (Brian Goldsmith)
>  12. Interpretation: "plant entered values report" (Jeff Ross-Bain)
>  13. Re: Interpretation: "plant entered values report" (Demba Ndiaye)
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Varkie C Thomas <thomasv at iit.edu>
> To: Greg Garcia <ggarcia at etcgrp.com>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 16:37:48 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Excel Based schedule maker?
>
> To Convert EXCEL File to DOE2.inp File
>
> Go to
>
> http://bepan.info/doe2inp
>
> Under Schedules open
>
> 0 - Convert EXCEL Schedules to DOE22.inp TEXT<http://bepan.info/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/Convert_EXCEL_Sched_to_DOE22inp_TEXT.144141212.pdf>
>
> Items 1 to 6 are Excel Files that ready to be converted to DOE2.inp
>
> I’ve got a building with 9 unique occupancy schedules which are detailed in
> an excel spreadsheet as a fraction.  Does anyone have a spreadsheet tool
> that has the ability to quickly create an .inp snippet for a schedule?
>
>
>
> G.Garcia
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Arpan Bakshi <arpanbakshi at gmail.com>
> To: equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 22:52:40 -0400
> Subject: [Equest-users] Tsinghua and other North China Universities
>
> Is anyone on this list at Tsinghua University or other building science and
> systems research centers in North China?
>
> Thanks
> --
>
>
> Arpan Bakshi,* *LEED AP BD+C
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brian Goldsmith <Brian.Goldsmith at atce.com>
> To: "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 20:52:48 -0700
> Subject: [Equest-users] Exterior Lighting
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I am confused as to what you are supposed to model and what you aren’t for
> exterior lighting. The building I am working on has a very shallow parking
> lot surrounding it, so the sidewalk lights also cover the parking spaces. So
> for my baseline do I still include sidewalk lighting and parking lot
> lighting? I guess my general question is: if the proposed model won’t have a
> type of lighting (my building does have a canopy, but no lighting will be
> installed on it) do I still model it in the baseline? Technically you are
> saving energy by installing fewer lights. From what I’ve read, it seems
> youre not supposed to model nontradable surfaces (building facades) in the
> baseline if the proposed doesn’t have it. Thanks for the help.
>
>
>
> *Brian Goldsmith, LEED**® AP*
>
> Design Engineer
>
> 97 E. Brokaw Road, No 300
>
> San Jose, CA 95112
>
> *main    *408.487.1200
>
> *direct*  408.487.1217
>
> www.atce.com
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> To: Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:37:11 +0530
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Nick, I have created both building in one single model to take benefit of
> shading of building also as one single leed project.
> I am still not able to decide while choosing baseline building; number of
> floors should be sum of all floor in project  or maximum number of floor of
> building.
>
> --
> With Regards
> Praveen
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>wrote:
>
>>  That’s what I’d do (but I’d also ask the lists to be sure)!
>>
>>
>>
>> The only real distinction (and potential for a problem) here is that you
>> have two buildings in one model.  Provided you continue to treat each
>> building separately, both in building your baseline and in documentation, I
>> don’t see any base reason why a reviewer would reject the models.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone share a successful 2-building-1-model submittal experience to
>> confirm this alone isn’t an issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> ~Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>>
>> PROJECT ENGINEER
>>
>> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>>
>> 25501 west valley parkway
>>
>> olathe ks 66061
>>
>> direct 913 344.0036
>>
>> fax 913 345.0617
>>
>> www.smithboucher.com* *
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
>> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *varun kulkarni
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:59 AM
>> *To:* Praveen Jain
>> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>>
>>
>>
>> Prateek,
>>
>> The first column for table G3.1.1A says for Non residential 5 floors or
>> less and 25,000 SF to 150,000 SF. I think your sytem should fall under this
>> and so Baseline System 6 should be the right choice. I dont know if adding
>> the floors on the two buildings is a good idea !!
>>
>> Anyone else in support or in disagreement with my comment ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working on a project which has two towers within the same LEED
>> boundary. One tower is 3 stories and another is 4 stories. Total conditioned
>> area of the project is 70000 ft2. Heating type of my project is Electric.
>>
>> In this case, what can be project baseline system? Should I choose
>> baseline system 6 or baseline System 8?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with regards,
>> Praveen K. Jain
>> Roorkee
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks and Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Varun Kulkarni , M.S. , EIT
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: Please do not print, unless required.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Anja Mitschelen <amitschelen at es-info.com>
> To: "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:59:58 +0200
> Subject: [Equest-users] Error in Evaluating BudgetConversion Rulelist:
> table look-up error
>
> Dear eQuest users :-)
>
>
>
> We are working on a LEED Project and we are using the eQuest release 3-64
> simulation tool for the very first time.
>
> We have experience with other simulation tools, though. But we can’t use
> them on LEED because they are for European standards.
>
>
>
> The problem we have with eQuest is that every time we want to run the
> Compliance Analysis we get the Error messages:
>
>
>
> Errors found in Evaluating BudgetConversion Rulelist
>
> -    Table look-up failed:  A901-07_Envelope( 1, 1) evaluating rule:
> Lookup construction layer insulation R-value
>
> -    Local() error – CONSTRUCTION:rvMaterialRVal intermediate values not
> found. Evaluating rule: Set insulation material R-value
>
> -   Table look-up failed: A901-07_Fenestration (1, 1, 1, 4, 1) evaluating
> rule: Lookup window U-factor
>
> -   Table look-up failed: A901_Fenestration (2, 1, 1, 4, 1) evaluating
> rule: Lookup window SHGC
>
> -   Local() error – WINDOW:rvBaseUFactor intermediate values not found.
> Evaluating rule: Calculate baseline glass conductance
>
> -   Local() error – WINDOW:rvBaseSHGC intermediate values not found.
> Evaluating rule: Calculate baseline shading coefficient
>
> -   Local() error – WINDOW:rvBaseGlassConductance intermediate values not
> found. Evaluating rule: Assign/Create glass type to all windows
>
> -   Assign zone to baseline floor system: CRule::Eval() error posting
> symbolic (value 2.67146e-297) result to BDL
>
>
>
> (Also see screenshots attached)
>
>
>
> We already checked the archive and found, that we should remove the plenum.
> We tried this and we also reset everything that has to do with windows to
> the default values but the Error still occurs. I have no clue what else I
> could try.
>
>
>
> And since it’s an important project for school I am pretty desperate right
> now… Please help me :-)
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Anja
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Patrick J. O'Leary, Jr." <poleary1969 at gmail.com>
> To: Brian Goldsmith <Brian.Goldsmith at atce.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 05:11:07 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Exterior Lighting
>  if it is on your site you're supposed to model it in both the baseline and
> proposed but don't make up lighting just to put it in the model (baseline or
> proposed).  no lights = none modeled.  the breakout between tradable and
> nontradable lighting is shown on the ssc8 template the electrical
> engineer/lighting designer fills out if that point is pursued.  if ssc8 is
> not pursued, or it is a leed 3 project, the same data is part of the
> lighting/electrical checklist and can be pulled from there.
>
> On 5/25/11 8:52 PM, Brian Goldsmith wrote:
>
>  Hi Everyone,
>
> I am confused as to what you are supposed to model and what you aren’t for
> exterior lighting. The building I am working on has a very shallow parking
> lot surrounding it, so the sidewalk lights also cover the parking spaces. So
> for my baseline do I still include sidewalk lighting and parking lot
> lighting? I guess my general question is: if the proposed model won’t have a
> type of lighting (my building does have a canopy, but no lighting will be
> installed on it) do I still model it in the baseline? Technically you are
> saving energy by installing fewer lights. From what I’ve read, it seems
> youre not supposed to model nontradable surfaces (building facades) in the
> baseline if the proposed doesn’t have it. Thanks for the help.
>
>
>
> *Brian Goldsmith, LEED**® AP*
>
> Design Engineer
>
> 97 E. Brokaw Road, No 300
>
> San Jose, CA 95112
>
> *main    *408.487.1200
>
> *direct*  408.487.1217
>
> www.atce.com
>
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Bruce Easterbrook <bruce5 at bellnet.ca>
> To: Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:21:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>  I have yet to try what you are doing but you would need to treat each
> building separately.  The number of floors in the building will determine
> your baseline building as Nick pointed out.  Your method to deliver
> conditioned air to each zone in each building is going to be separate even
> though you may use a plant to provide for example, hot and cold water to
> both buildings.  I haven't looked ahead to see if you are going to run into
> a system type conflict between the 2 buildings but if you do just use common
> sense and determine what is the best way to go to maximize energy
> efficiency.  None of the "rules" are written in stone.  They are bendable if
> you have a good argument and can back it up with hard data which eQuest will
> give you.
> Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
> Abode Engineering
>
> On 26/05/2011 12:07 AM, Praveen Jain wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Nick, I have created both building in one single model to take benefit of
> shading of building also as one single leed project.
> I am still not able to decide while choosing baseline building; number of
> floors should be sum of all floor in project  or maximum number of floor of
> building.
>
> --
> With Regards
> Praveen
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>wrote:
>
>>  That’s what I’d do (but I’d also ask the lists to be sure)!
>>
>>
>>
>> The only real distinction (and potential for a problem) here is that you
>> have two buildings in one model.  Provided you continue to treat each
>> building separately, both in building your baseline and in documentation, I
>> don’t see any base reason why a reviewer would reject the models.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can anyone share a successful 2-building-1-model submittal experience to
>> confirm this alone isn’t an issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> ~Nick
>>
>>
>>
>> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>>
>> * *
>>
>> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.***
>>
>> PROJECT ENGINEER
>>
>> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>>
>> 25501 west valley parkway
>>
>> olathe ks 66061
>>
>> direct 913 344.0036
>>
>> fax 913 345.0617
>>
>> www.smithboucher.com* *
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
>> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *varun kulkarni
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:59 AM
>> *To:* Praveen Jain
>> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>>
>>
>>
>> Prateek,
>>
>> The first column for table G3.1.1A says for Non residential 5 floors or
>> less and 25,000 SF to 150,000 SF. I think your sytem should fall under this
>> and so Baseline System 6 should be the right choice. I dont know if adding
>> the floors on the two buildings is a good idea !!
>>
>> Anyone else in support or in disagreement with my comment ?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am working on a project which has two towers within the same LEED
>> boundary. One tower is 3 stories and another is 4 stories. Total conditioned
>> area of the project is 70000 ft2. Heating type of my project is Electric.
>>
>> In this case, what can be project baseline system? Should I choose
>> baseline system 6 or baseline System 8?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in Advance
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> with regards,
>> Praveen K. Jain
>> Roorkee
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Equest-users mailing list
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>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to
>> EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks and Best Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Varun Kulkarni , M.S. , EIT
>>
>>
>>
>> Note: Please do not print, unless required.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Demba Ndiaye <Demba.Ndiaye at setty.com>
> To: Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:47:47 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
> Praveen,
>
>
>
> Assuming you are applying for LEED 2009, you might consult the “2010 LEED
> Application Guide for Multiple Buildings and On-Campus Building Projects”.
>
>
>
> This document is available here
> https://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7987.
>
>
>
> There is also another Guide that was published in 2005 I believe and that
> apply to earlier versions of LEED.
>
>
>
> ______________
>
> Demba NDIAYE
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Easterbrook
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:21 AM
> *To:* Praveen Jain
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
>
>
> I have yet to try what you are doing but you would need to treat each
> building separately.  The number of floors in the building will determine
> your baseline building as Nick pointed out.  Your method to deliver
> conditioned air to each zone in each building is going to be separate even
> though you may use a plant to provide for example, hot and cold water to
> both buildings.  I haven't looked ahead to see if you are going to run into
> a system type conflict between the 2 buildings but if you do just use common
> sense and determine what is the best way to go to maximize energy
> efficiency.  None of the "rules" are written in stone.  They are bendable if
> you have a good argument and can back it up with hard data which eQuest will
> give you.
> Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
> Abode Engineering
>
> On 26/05/2011 12:07 AM, Praveen Jain wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Nick, I have created both building in one single model to take benefit of
> shading of building also as one single leed project.
> I am still not able to decide while choosing baseline building; number of
> floors should be sum of all floor in project  or maximum number of floor of
> building.
>
> --
> With Regards
> Praveen
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> wrote:
>
> That’s what I’d do (but I’d also ask the lists to be sure)!
>
>
>
> The only real distinction (and potential for a problem) here is that you
> have two buildings in one model.  Provided you continue to treat each
> building separately, both in building your baseline and in documentation, I
> don’t see any base reason why a reviewer would reject the models.
>
>
>
> Can anyone share a successful 2-building-1-model submittal experience to
> confirm this alone isn’t an issue?
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
>
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.*
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *varun kulkarni
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:59 AM
> *To:* Praveen Jain
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
>
>
> Prateek,
>
> The first column for table G3.1.1A says for Non residential 5 floors or
> less and 25,000 SF to 150,000 SF. I think your sytem should fall under this
> and so Baseline System 6 should be the right choice. I dont know if adding
> the floors on the two buildings is a good idea !!
>
> Anyone else in support or in disagreement with my comment ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am working on a project which has two towers within the same LEED
> boundary. One tower is 3 stories and another is 4 stories. Total conditioned
> area of the project is 70000 ft2. Heating type of my project is Electric.
>
> In this case, what can be project baseline system? Should I choose baseline
> system 6 or baseline System 8?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
> _______________________________________________
> Equest-users mailing list
> http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to
> EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Varun Kulkarni , M.S. , EIT
>
>
>
> Note: Please do not print, unless required.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Equest-users mailing list
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Paul Riemer <Paul.Riemer at dunhameng.com>
> To: Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:22:26 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
> Praveen,
>
> There is a rationale that ASHRAE 90.1 does not allow tradeoffs between
> buildings.  So if you are using a model to demonstrate compliance with 90.1,
> you need a model of each building separately.
>
> So for LEED 2009, can the EAp2 10% savings requirement be met in aggregate
> or does it have to be met on each building independently?
>
> Surely someone has answered that somewhere.  Look in the big book.
>
> If aggregate is okay, then I wonder if each building needs to individually
> state or demonstrate compliance with 90.1?
>
> (or should we forget we thought of that question?)
>
> Thanks for getting me thinking about this.  I have a multiple building
> project on the back burner and maybe I can use this to nudge them.
>
>
>
> *Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP*
>
> *DUNHAM*
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Demba Ndiaye
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 8:48 AM
> *To:* Praveen Jain
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
>
>
> Praveen,
>
>
>
> Assuming you are applying for LEED 2009, you might consult the “2010 LEED
> Application Guide for Multiple Buildings and On-Campus Building Projects”.
>
>
>
> This document is available here
> https://www.usgbc.org/ShowFile.aspx?DocumentID=7987.
>
>
>
> There is also another Guide that was published in 2005 I believe and that
> apply to earlier versions of LEED.
>
>
>
> ______________
>
> Demba NDIAYE
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Bruce
> Easterbrook
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 9:21 AM
> *To:* Praveen Jain
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
>
>
> I have yet to try what you are doing but you would need to treat each
> building separately.  The number of floors in the building will determine
> your baseline building as Nick pointed out.  Your method to deliver
> conditioned air to each zone in each building is going to be separate even
> though you may use a plant to provide for example, hot and cold water to
> both buildings.  I haven't looked ahead to see if you are going to run into
> a system type conflict between the 2 buildings but if you do just use common
> sense and determine what is the best way to go to maximize energy
> efficiency.  None of the "rules" are written in stone.  They are bendable if
> you have a good argument and can back it up with hard data which eQuest will
> give you.
> Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
> Abode Engineering
>
> On 26/05/2011 12:07 AM, Praveen Jain wrote:
>
> Thanks for your reply
>
> Nick, I have created both building in one single model to take benefit of
> shading of building also as one single leed project.
> I am still not able to decide while choosing baseline building; number of
> floors should be sum of all floor in project  or maximum number of floor of
> building.
>
> --
> With Regards
> Praveen
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Nick Caton <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> wrote:
>
> That’s what I’d do (but I’d also ask the lists to be sure)!
>
>
>
> The only real distinction (and potential for a problem) here is that you
> have two buildings in one model.  Provided you continue to treat each
> building separately, both in building your baseline and in documentation, I
> don’t see any base reason why a reviewer would reject the models.
>
>
>
> Can anyone share a successful 2-building-1-model submittal experience to
> confirm this alone isn’t an issue?
>
>
>
> ~Nick
>
>
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, E.I.T.*
>
> PROJECT ENGINEER
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers
>
> 25501 west valley parkway
>
> olathe ks 66061
>
> direct 913 344.0036
>
> fax 913 345.0617
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *varun kulkarni
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:59 AM
> *To:* Praveen Jain
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] ASHRAE90.1 Baseline System
>
>
>
> Prateek,
>
> The first column for table G3.1.1A says for Non residential 5 floors or
> less and 25,000 SF to 150,000 SF. I think your sytem should fall under this
> and so Baseline System 6 should be the right choice. I dont know if adding
> the floors on the two buildings is a good idea !!
>
> Anyone else in support or in disagreement with my comment ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Praveen Jain <praveenjain83 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I am working on a project which has two towers within the same LEED
> boundary. One tower is 3 stories and another is 4 stories. Total conditioned
> area of the project is 70000 ft2. Heating type of my project is Electric.
>
> In this case, what can be project baseline system? Should I choose baseline
> system 6 or baseline System 8?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks in Advance
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Thanks and Best Regards,
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Varun Kulkarni , M.S. , EIT
>
>
>
> Note: Please do not print, unless required.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> with regards,
> Praveen K. Jain
> Roorkee
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: R B <slv3sat at gmail.com>
> To: eQUEST Users List <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 13:12:02 -0500
> Subject: [Equest-users] Second try - how many DX curves to customize?
> Did not get any replies for this - maybe Thursday is my lucky day and
> someone has the answer:
>
> There are two performance curves and five curves under capacity curves tab
> for DX cooling. I was planning on generating just custom performance curves,
> but was wondering if it is necessary to generate custom capacity curves
> also? If yes, which of the capacity curves are critical to be customized
> (total cap vs temps, sen cap vs temps, bypass factor vs temps, bypass factor
> vs flow, and bypass factor vs part load). My thinking is total cap and
> sensible cap curves might be useful to customize. Is it easy to get data for
> the bypass factor curves?
>
> Appreciate it if anyone who has done custom curves for DX cooling can chime
> in.
>
> Thanks
> -Rohini
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Brian Goldsmith <Brian.Goldsmith at atce.com>
> To: "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 11:33:15 -0700
> Subject: [Equest-users] Need help with Schedules
>
> I know I’ve been hounding everyone with questions this week, but I think
> I’m getting really close to figuring this out. I have implemented a bunch of
> schedules for OA, economizing, etc. I think they might be conflicting with
> eachother somehow, because when I produce an hourly report it says heating
> and cooling are on 24/7, even when the fan isnt on. Also in the report I
> noticed at random times that there is no load to the coil at all during
> occupied hours, so the fan shuts off but the heating and cooling stay on.
> Anyone ever had this problem? I have attached pd2 and inp files. Thanks for
> the help!
>
>
>
>
>
> *Brian Goldsmith, LEED**® AP*
>
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>
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>
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>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Jeff Ross-Bain" <jeff at rbgb.com>
> To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 14:56:05 -0400
> Subject: [Equest-users] Interpretation: "plant entered values report"
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I have received the following request for information from an energy model:
>
>
>
> *Please attach a plant entered values report to verify that modeling
> conforms to Appendix G.*
>
>
>
> Any idea what a “plant entered values report” is? I am assuming it is a
> series of screen shots showing inputs or maybe a PV-A report but want to be
> sure. I must be missing the obvious (again).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey G Ross-Bain, PE, LEED AP, BEMP*
>
> *404-228-2893 office *
>
> *404-408-2577 mobile
> **www.rbgb.com*
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Demba Ndiaye <Demba.Ndiaye at setty.com>
> To: Jeff Ross-Bain <jeff at rbgb.com>, "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 15:10:15 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Interpretation: "plant entered values report"
>
> Jeff,
>
>
>
> I would say one or the others: both the PV-A or the screen shots might be
> able to do the job.
>
>
>
> _______________
>
> Demba NDIAYE
>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Ross-Bain
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2011 2:56 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Interpretation: "plant entered values report"
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> I have received the following request for information from an energy model:
>
>
>
> *Please attach a plant entered values report to verify that modeling
> conforms to Appendix G.*
>
>
>
> Any idea what a “plant entered values report” is? I am assuming it is a
> series of screen shots showing inputs or maybe a PV-A report but want to be
> sure. I must be missing the obvious (again).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> *Jeffrey G Ross-Bain, PE, LEED AP, BEMP*
>
> *404-228-2893 office *
>
> *404-408-2577 mobile
> **www.rbgb.com*
>
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