[Equest-users] Equest-users Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18

anura perera perera.anura25 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 21 19:52:46 PDT 2011


From: Omar Osama <o_osama at live.com>
To: equest <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:03:27 +0200
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact

I do not see anything wrong. Building is a complex system combined with many
interactive elements subjected to varying solicitations.

I believe for the climate concerned there is no heating requirement what so
ever !!

Please consider the thermal inertia aspects of coupled elements of zones and
any heat loss reduction from the building zone(s)
 to the outside during a certain period of the day might effect the cooling
load in another period of the day.

All these can be checked with your simulation outputs

Hope this will help

Anura



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>   1. Re: U-Value unexpected impact (Omar Osama)
>   2. Re: Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s) (Dave Bastow)
>   3. Re: Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s) (Dahlstrom, Aaron)
>   4. Design Development (Omar Osama)
>   5. Re: Design Development (Nick Caton)
>   6. Re: 508 Compliance/VPAT (Harper, Tim)
>   7. Baseline Heat Pump vs Geothermal HP (nic)
>   8. Meeting Date Clarification (David Eldridge)
>   9. eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7 (Steven Savich)
>  10. Re: 508 Compliance/VPAT (Carol Gardner)
>  11. Re: 508 Compliance/VPAT (Nick Caton)
>  12. wwr calculation (deepika khowal)
>  13. Re: wwr calculation (PKConsulting)
>  14. Re: wwr calculation (deepika khowal)
>  15. Re: eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7 (David Reddy)
>  16. Re: eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7 (Steven Savich)
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Omar Osama <o_osama at live.com>
> To: equest <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:03:27 +0200
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact
>  Now I decrease the U-value, and trace the components, what happens is
> that the maximum load (LS-D) tends to decrease, as well as the Building HVAC
> load (SS-D) tends to decrease as well, which is the normal thing. the abnormal
> thing is that the space cooling energy use, on the (PS-F) dramatically
> increase, by decreasing the U-value. I would be so grateful if anyone could
> help me with a reasonable explanation for that.
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Omar AlRawi*
>
> Project Engineer,
>
> EA Sustainable Building Consultants
> www.ea-buildingconsultants.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: o_osama at live.com
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: RE: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 21:37:04 +0200
>
>  Thanks so much,
> I do appreciate your reply ,, I shall re-check internal loads, guess I have
> excessive lighting loads.
>
>
> *Omar AlRawi*
>
> *Project Engineer,*
>
> *EA Sustainabl e Building Consultants
> **www.ea-buildingconsultants.com*
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
> From: akrickx at seriousenergy.com
> To: chris at greenengineer.com; o_osama at live.com;
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 10:39:02 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact
>
>  Hi Omar,
>
> Another thing to check is that you are modeling a glass with a low-Solar
> Heat Gain Coefficient (SHGC). Low SHGC glasses and glass-units are best
> for situations where there is no need for passive heating (hot climates and
> internal load-dominated buildings).
>
> You can still maintain high VT (>0.5) with low SHGC (<0.3), so it doesn't
> need to sacrifice aesthetics and daylighting options.
>
> Great point on the internal loads Chris.
>
> Cheers,
> Alex
>
>
> Alex Krickx, LEED AP
>
> Building Energy Specialist
>
> Serious Energy, Inc.
>
> 1250 Elko Dr, Sunnyvale, CA 94089
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> (t) 408.541.8124
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> akrickx at seriousenergy.com
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> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Christopher
> Schaffner [chris at greenengineer.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:04 AM
> *To:* Omar Osama; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact
>
>   In mild weather, with high internal heat gains, the losses through the
> glazing reduce the cooling load. In this situation, increasing the
> performance of the glass will cause increased energy consumption.
>
>  This counterintuitive result is often the result of an overestimation of
> internal heat gains.   You should perform a reality check on your internal
> heat gains, before you determine if this result is correct.
>
>  --
>
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>   From: Omar Osama <o_osama at live.com>
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 16:07:13 +0200
> To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Subject: [Equest-users] U-Value unexpected impact
>
>   All,
>     I'am modelling a mid-rise, curtain wall, office building in Egypt (hot
> humid climate 2a). while I do decrease the glazing's U-value, below 0.5, the
> energy consumption tends to increase. does this issue have a reality related
> explanation, is it a problem in my file, or is it a software bug issue?
>
>
>  Thanks for consideration,
>
>  Omar AlRawi
> Project Engineer ,  EA Sustainable Building Consultants
> www.ea-buildingconsultants.com
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Dave Bastow" <dbastow at mcclure-engineering.com>
> To: "'Travis Miller'" <tmiller at dcengineering.net>, "'Dahlstrom, Aaron'" <
> ADahlstrom at in-posse.com>, <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:39:03 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)
>
> Travis,****
>
> ** **
>
> If nothing else you can model it as a regular chiller with an open cooling
> tower and just use KW/efficiency factors & curves for the various components
> so that it equals what you would get from energy used by your well pumps or
> what have you.  Also, using temperatures that relate to your well water
> temperatures for the chilled water temperatures.  I did this once, modeling
> an existing large office building that was cooled by well water, that varied
> from 50 degrees F. in winter to 60 degrees F. in the late summer.  Once I
> got all the inputs and curves and all set up correctly then it modeled very
> closely to what the actual energy use had been from all of our historical
> recorded data.****
>
> ** **
>
> *David A. Bastow *****
>
> *McClure Engineering, Inc.  *****
>
> 507 Main Avenue West****
>
> Post Office Box 1404****
>
> Twin Falls, Idaho   83303-1404****
>
> PH.  (208) 734-9015****
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> Cell  (208) 308-1152****
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> E-Mail:  dbastow at mcclure-engineering.com****
>
> Web Site:  www.mcclure-engineering.com****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Travis Miller [mailto:tmiller at dcengineering.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:28 AM
> *To:* Dahlstrom, Aaron; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks Aaron – I did that and now the error reads:****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: C:\Users\tmiller\Desktop\Capture1.PNG]****
>
> ** **
>
> So I went and gave the chilled water loop the same process load, but that
> did not fix the problem. Below is a screenshot on how the loops are tied
> together. Ignore the heat pump loop – that is for a different system in the
> same building. Any other thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: C:\Users\tmiller\Desktop\Capture.PNG]****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Dahlstrom, Aaron [mailto:ADahlstrom at in-posse.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 5:18 PM
> *To:* Travis Miller; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* RE: Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Travis – sometimes this error can be addressed by putting a nominal process
> load on the offending loop – say 0.000001 Mbtu/hr, with a minimal schedule.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> There may be a more comprehensive or elegant solution, but this might just
> get you going.****
>
> ** **
>
> AD****
>
> ** **
>
> *Aaron Dahlstrom , PE, LEED® AP*****
>
> *In P**o**sse* – A subsidiary of *AKF*| 1500 Walnut Street, Suite 1414,
> Philadelphia, PA 19102 ****
>
> d: 215-282-6753| m: 267-507-5470| In Posse: 215-282-6800| AKF:
> 215-735-7290****
>
> e: ADahlstrom at in-posse.com | in posse web: www.in-posse.com | akf web:
> www.akfgroup.com****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 5:45 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello all:****
>
> ** **
>
> I have a system that is using well water direct to the cooling coils (no
> heat exchanger to protect the cooling coils) at multiple air handlers in the
> building. I set it up with the condenser water loop tied to a ground water
> heat exchanger. This condenser loop then is tied to another heat exchanger
> on the chilled water loop to the coils.  This approach has given me an error
> on the condenser water loop that it has no design flow. I have been playing
> with the primary/secondary loop designations, even putting some made up flow
> values into the loops/pumps etc. but have had no luck. Any ideas?****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to eliminate heat exchangers all together and just model the
> 50° well water directly into the chilled water loop – any advice on how to
> do this? I already changed the effectiveness of the heat exchanger to 1.0.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks ****
>
> ** **
>
> *Travis Miller**, PE***
>
> DC Engineering****
>
> 123 W. Spruce St.****
>
> Missoula, MT 59802****
>
> P: (406)829-8828x209****
>
> F: (406)829-8829****
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Dahlstrom, Aaron" <ADahlstrom at in-posse.com>
> To: Dave Bastow <dbastow at mcclure-engineering.com>, 'Travis Miller' <
> tmiller at dcengineering.net>, "equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 20:55:31 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)
>
> Travis – took a little more time and read the whole thing.****
>
> ** **
>
> Why not put the offending chiller (and associated circulation pump) on a
> separate utility meter and just subtract that meter from your total usage as
> a post-processing exercise?****
>
> ** **
>
> I’m not sure whether or not eQUEST can explicitly model what you’re trying
> to do.****
>
> ** **
>
> *Aaron Dahlstrom , PE, LEED® AP*****
>
> *In P**o**sse* – A subsidiary of *AKF*| 1500 Walnut Street, Suite 1414,
> Philadelphia, PA 19102 ****
>
> d: 215-282-6753| m: 267-507-5470| In Posse: 215-282-6800| AKF:
> 215-735-7290****
>
> e: ADahlstrom at in-posse.com | in posse web: www.in-posse.com | akf web:
> www.akfgroup.com****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Dave Bastow [mailto:dbastow at mcclure-engineering.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 5:39 PM
> *To:* 'Travis Miller'; Dahlstrom, Aaron;
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Travis,****
>
> ** **
>
> If nothing else you can model it as a regular chiller with an open cooling
> tower and just use KW/efficiency factors & curves for the various components
> so that it equals what you would get from energy used by your well pumps or
> what have you.  Also, using temperatures that relate to your well water
> temperatures for the chilled water temperatures.  I did this once, modeling
> an existing large office building that was cooled by well water, that varied
> from 50 degrees F. in winter to 60 degrees F. in the late summer.  Once I
> got all the inputs and curves and all set up correctly then it modeled very
> closely to what the actual energy use had been from all of our historical
> recorded data.****
>
> ** **
>
> *David A. Bastow *****
>
> *McClure Engineering, Inc.  *****
>
> 507 Main Avenue West****
>
> Post Office Box 1404****
>
> Twin Falls, Idaho   83303-1404****
>
> PH.  (208) 734-9015****
>
> FAX  (208) 734-9016****
>
> Cell  (208) 308-1152****
>
> E-Mail:  dbastow at mcclure-engineering.com****
>
> Web Site:  www.mcclure-engineering.com****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Travis Miller [mailto:tmiller at dcengineering.net]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 18, 2011 9:28 AM
> *To:* Dahlstrom, Aaron; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks Aaron – I did that and now the error reads:****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: C:\Users\tmiller\Desktop\Capture1.PNG]****
>
> ** **
>
> So I went and gave the chilled water loop the same process load, but that
> did not fix the problem. Below is a screenshot on how the loops are tied
> together. Ignore the heat pump loop – that is for a different system in the
> same building. Any other thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: Description: C:\Users\tmiller\Desktop\Capture.PNG]****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Dahlstrom, Aaron [mailto:ADahlstrom at in-posse.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 5:18 PM
> *To:* Travis Miller; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* RE: Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Travis – sometimes this error can be addressed by putting a nominal process
> load on the offending loop – say 0.000001 Mbtu/hr, with a minimal schedule.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> There may be a more comprehensive or elegant solution, but this might just
> get you going.****
>
> ** **
>
> AD****
>
> ** **
>
> *Aaron Dahlstrom , PE, LEED® AP*****
>
> *In P**o**sse* – A subsidiary of *AKF*| 1500 Walnut Street, Suite 1414,
> Philadelphia, PA 19102 ****
>
> d: 215-282-6753| m: 267-507-5470| In Posse: 215-282-6800| AKF:
> 215-735-7290****
>
> e: ADahlstrom at in-posse.com | in posse web: www.in-posse.com | akf web:
> www.akfgroup.com****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Travis
> Miller
> *Sent:* Monday, October 17, 2011 5:45 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Ground Water/chilled water loop error(s)****
>
> ** **
>
> Hello all:****
>
> ** **
>
> I have a system that is using well water direct to the cooling coils (no
> heat exchanger to protect the cooling coils) at multiple air handlers in the
> building. I set it up with the condenser water loop tied to a ground water
> heat exchanger. This condenser loop then is tied to another heat exchanger
> on the chilled water loop to the coils.  This approach has given me an error
> on the condenser water loop that it has no design flow. I have been playing
> with the primary/secondary loop designations, even putting some made up flow
> values into the loops/pumps etc. but have had no luck. Any ideas?****
>
> ** **
>
> I would like to eliminate heat exchangers all together and just model the
> 50° well water directly into the chilled water loop – any advice on how to
> do this? I already changed the effectiveness of the heat exchanger to 1.0.
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks ****
>
> ** **
>
> *Travis Miller**, PE***
>
> DC Engineering****
>
> 123 W. Spruce St.****
>
> Missoula, MT 59802****
>
> P: (406)829-8828x209****
>
> F: (406)829-8829****
>
> ** **
>
>
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>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Omar Osama <o_osama at live.com>
> To: equest <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:20:14 +0200
> Subject: [Equest-users] Design Development
>  All,
> Since it's my first time going through LEED Documentation process, I need
> to know if my design development procedures are right or wrong.
>
> I'am working on equest's detailed mode, hence, I'am not using the DD wizard
> found in equest, what I did is that I've created two equest files; One for
> the Basecase and another one for the developed case, then I get the
> percentage improvement in a separate excel file, which counts for each
> strategy's impact on the basecase.
>
>         I wanted to know if this is an acceptable method for LEED
> documentation, or I'am obligated to use the equest wizard and the equest DD.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> *Omar AlRawi*
>
> Project Engineer,
>
> EA Sustainable Building Consultants
> www.ea-buildingconsultants.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: "Omar Osama" <o_osama at live.com>, "equest" <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:58:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Design Development
>
> Omar,****
>
> ** **
>
> Everyone has their own personal workflow, but considering how much is to
> remain the same between the two models, I think you will find it more
> efficient to first build your proposed model, utilizing the wizards along
> the way, then save a copy to be modified and become your baseline.  You can
> make a personal judgement at that point regarding whether you would feel
> more comfortable returning to the wizards or modifying entirely within
> detailed edit mode.****
>
> ** **
>
> Also as a heads up, the LEED templates will do all the % improvement
> math/legwork.  If you would like a spreadsheet to assess progress during
> model development, just know it doesn’t necessarily need to be in “final
> presentation” format.  You will likely create a spreadsheet to submit to
> LEED to document your fan/efficiency calculations and inputs along the way,
> however.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Strongly advising you first log on to LEED online and download your
> project’s EAp2 documentation spreadsheet/template.  If your project is v2.2
> or earlier you will still find the v3 spreadsheet for EAp2 very handy.  That
> spreadsheet in serves as a great checklist for new and veteran modelers
> alike to make sure you’re considering many of the things you should be
> defining distinctly or ensuring are the same for 90.1/LEED.  Fill it out as
> you go if it’s one of your first models.****
>
> ** **
>
> ~Nick****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, P.E.***
>
> SENIOR ENGINEER****
>
> ** **
>
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>
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>
> ** **
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Omar Osama
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:20 AM
> *To:* equest
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Design Development****
>
> ** **
>
> All,****
>
>             Since it's my first time going through LEED Documentation
> process, I need to know if my design development procedures are right or
> wrong. ****
>
> ** **
>
>             I'am working on equest's detailed mode, hence, I'am not using
> the DD wizard found in equest, what I did is that I've created two equest
> files; One for the Basecase and another one for the developed case, then I
> get the percentage improvement in a separate excel file, which counts for
> each strategy's impact on the basecase.****
>
>         ****
>
>         I wanted to know if this is an acceptable method for LEED
> documentation, or I'am obligated to use the equest wizard and the equest DD.
> ****
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> ****
>
> *Omar AlRawi*****
>
> Project Engineer,****
>
> EA Sustainable Building Consultants
> www.ea-buildingconsultants.com****
>
> ------------------------------
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Harper, Tim" <Tim.Harper at dhs.gov>
> To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:39:05 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] 508 Compliance/VPAT
> **
>
> eQuest Users:
>
> I am in process of obtaining the building simulation “eQuest” software, but
> first have to get IT approval via my DHS government agency, The Federal Law
> Enforcement Training Center.  I was tasked with finding out if eQuest had
> already been evaluated for 508 Compliance.   If so, can you lead me to a
> document that states this compliance?  I appreciate your assistance.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: nic <ffonics at gmail.com>
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:48:08 -0500
> Subject: [Equest-users] Baseline Heat Pump vs Geothermal HP
> Hello,
> I am becoming concerned with how much better my geothermal Heat
> Pump modeled as PVVT (with geo HP under heating cooling respectively) are
> performing over the Ashrae Baseline required system 4 (Packaged Single Zone
> HP).  I am approaching the 40-50% mark.  I understand that the geothermal
> system should be appreciably less in energy consumption since there is
> little energy spent on the heat sink other than pumps.
>
> Both were specified by Equest through wizard selection, but the PVVT Geo HP
> system was confirmed to be the best selection for a multizone system in a
> Equest users response.
>
> Am I correct in thinking that the Single Zone HP are incorrectly
> duplicating themselves for each zone serviced?  Therefore, increasing the
> energy consumption.  Whereas, each PVVT system can service multiple zones.
>
> Should I use the PVVT system for the baseline and modify it to simulate a
> PSZ-HP?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Eldridge <dse at grummanbutkus.com>
> To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org, eQUEST Users List <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>, tc47-l at onebuilding.org,
> ibpsausa at onebuilding.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:32:51 -0500
> Subject: [Equest-users] Meeting Date Clarification
>
> The IBPSA-USA meeting will be on SATURDAY, January 21st – as usual on the
> evening of the first Saturday of the ASHRAE conference. Sorry for any
> confusion!
>
>
>
> David
>
>
>
> *
> *
>
>
>
> *David S. Eldridge, Jr.**, P**.**E**.**, LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, BEAP, HBDP*
>
> Project Manager
>
>
>
> Direct: (847) 316-9224 | Fax: (847) 328-4550
>
>
>
> *Grumman/Butkus Associates* | 820 Davis Street, Suite 300 | Evanston, IL
> 60201
>
> Energy Efficiency Consultants and Sustainable Design Engineers
>
> *
> *
>
> * *
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Steven Savich" <ssavich at systemswestengineers.com>
> To: <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:01:26 -0700
> Subject: [Equest-users] eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7
>
> Has anyone else had an issue with 3D geometry display and Windows 7?****
>
> ** **
>
> I've tried opening a number of different projects with versions 3.61e
> (build 5653), 3.63 (build 6510), and 3.64 (build 7130) and the 3D geometry
> will not display on my Windows 7 desktop, but will display just fine when I
> run the models on an older XP machine with the same versions of eQuest.
> Anyone know of a fix for this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks in advance,****
>
> Steven****
>
> ** **
>
> Steven Savich, LEED AP****
>
> Systems West Engineers****
>
> 411 High Street****
>
> Eugene, OR  97401-2427****
>
> (541) 342-7210****
>
> (541) 342-7220 (fax)****
>
> ** **
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Carol Gardner <gems at spiritone.com>
> To: "Harper, Tim" <Tim.Harper at dhs.gov>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:08:49 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] 508 Compliance/VPAT
> **
> Hi Tim,
>
> My gut tells me that eQUEST itself would not need to be evaluated for 508
> Compliance as it is available at no cost to anyone who has a computer to
> download it on. I can't think of any accessibility issues that would come
> into play related to downloading or operating eQUEST itself, although there
> may be some for people whose disabilities require modifications to their
> computers, but again, those wouldn't be caused by the software.
>
> Can you explain to your IT people (!) that is just a bunch of mathematical
> algorithms gathered up in one place for the purpose of modeling how energy
> is used in a building?
>
> Good luck,
>
> Carol
>
> On 10/19/2011 7:39 AM, Harper, Tim wrote:
>
> eQuest Users:
>
> I am in process of obtaining the building simulation “eQuest” software, but
> first have to get IT approval via my DHS government agency, The Federal Law
> Enforcement Training Center.  I was tasked with finding out if eQuest had
> already been evaluated for 508 Compliance.   If so, can you lead me to a
> document that states this compliance?  I appreciate your assistance.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Equest-users mailing listhttp://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Nick Caton" <ncaton at smithboucher.com>
> To: "Carol Gardner" <gems at spiritone.com>, "Harper, Tim" <
> Tim.Harper at dhs.gov>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:33:25 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] 508 Compliance/VPAT
>
> Extra thought:****
>
> ** **
>
> Equest, like much software developed for use in a Windows OS, will adopt
> whatever environment color scheme you’ve set up – so I suppose that would
> take care of visual contrast/colorblindness issues (or if your school colors
> sneak in, in my case).  ****
>
> ** **
>
> Related office shenanigans when your colleague leaves their desk:  left
> shift + left alt + print screen key (it’s reversible)****
>
> ** **
>
> ~Nick****
>
> ** **
>
> [image: cid:489575314 at 22072009-0ABB]**
>
> * *
>
> *NICK CATON, P.E.***
>
> SENIOR ENGINEER****
>
> ** **
>
> Smith & Boucher Engineers****
>
> 25501 west valley parkway, suite 200****
>
> olathe, ks 66061****
>
> direct 913.344.0036****
>
> fax 913.345.0617****
>
> www.smithboucher.com* *****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Carol Gardner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 12:09 PM
> *To:* Harper, Tim
> *Cc:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] 508 Compliance/VPAT****
>
> ** **
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> My gut tells me that eQUEST itself would not need to be evaluated for 508
> Compliance as it is available at no cost to anyone who has a computer to
> download it on. I can't think of any accessibility issues that would come
> into play related to downloading or operating eQUEST itself, although there
> may be some for people whose disabilities require modifications to their
> computers, but again, those wouldn't be caused by the software.
>
> Can you explain to your IT people (!) that is just a bunch of mathematical
> algorithms gathered up in one place for the purpose of modeling how energy
> is used in a building?
>
> Good luck,
>
> Carol
>
> On 10/19/2011 7:39 AM, Harper, Tim wrote: ****
>
> eQuest Users:****
>
> I am in process of obtaining the building simulation “eQuest” software, but
> first have to get IT approval via my DHS government agency, The Federal Law
> Enforcement Training Center.  I was tasked with finding out if eQuest had
> already been evaluated for 508 Compliance.   If so, can you lead me to a
> document that states this compliance?  I appreciate your assistance.****
>
> Thanks!****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> _______________________________________________****
>
> Equest-users mailing list****
>
> http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org****
>
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG****
>
> ** **
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: deepika khowal <deepika.khowal at gmail.com>
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:39:01 -0700
> Subject: [Equest-users] wwr calculation
> Hi all
>
> I have a question about calculating WWR.
> for example, if the south wall area is 700sf and total window area is 70sf
> then the WWR should be 10%.
> but if 50% of south wall is part of a garage and is unconditioned, then
> in calculating WWR , should I include only the wall area for conditioned
> space or it should include complete facade?
> Thanks
>
> Deepika
>
>
>
>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
> To: deepika khowal <deepika.khowal at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:01:34 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] wwr calculation
> It should be the gross wall area for everything above ground.  Use the lv-d
> report to find the numbers to calculate the overall WWR for your entire
> bldg.   There is a summary page at the end of the lv-d report.  Look for the
> line called-'all walls'.  You can use those numbers to calc WWR percentage.
>
> Pashalu
>
> On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:39 AM, deepika khowal <deepika.khowal at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have a question about calculating WWR.
> > for example, if the south wall area is 700sf and total window area is
> 70sf then the WWR should be 10%.
> > but if 50% of south wall is part of a garage and is unconditioned, then
> in calculating WWR , should I include only the wall area for conditioned
> space or it should include complete facade?
> > Thanks
> >
> > Deepika
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > <image.png>
> > _______________________________________________
> > Equest-users mailing list
> > http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to
> EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: deepika khowal <deepika.khowal at gmail.com>
> To: PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:20:18 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] wwr calculation
> Thanks Pasha
>
> yes , i have been using LV-d report.
>
> Am confused how it work for an unconditioned space.
> Thanks
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:01 AM, PKConsulting <
> pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It should be the gross wall area for everything above ground.  Use the
>> lv-d report to find the numbers to calculate the overall WWR for your entire
>> bldg.   There is a summary page at the end of the lv-d report.  Look for the
>> line called-'all walls'.  You can use those numbers to calc WWR percentage.
>>
>> Pashalu
>>
>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 11:39 AM, deepika khowal <deepika.khowal at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi all
>> >
>> > I have a question about calculating WWR.
>> > for example, if the south wall area is 700sf and total window area is
>> 70sf then the WWR should be 10%.
>> > but if 50% of south wall is part of a garage and is unconditioned, then
>> in calculating WWR , should I include only the wall area for conditioned
>> space or it should include complete facade?
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Deepika
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > <image.png>
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Equest-users mailing list
>> > http://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
>> > To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to
>> EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: David Reddy <david.j.reddy1 at gmail.com>
> To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:35:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7
>  Steven-
> I have run into this issue and found the solution to use a non-Aero visual
> theme (either permanently set through Control Panel -> Appearance -> Change
> the Theme, or you can define themes on an application basis).  I think this
> problem is graphics card dependent, but not entirely sure.
>
> Hope this helps,
> David
>
> On 10/19/2011 10:01 AM, Steven Savich wrote:
>
>  Has anyone else had an issue with 3D geometry display and Windows 7?****
>
> ** **
>
> I've tried opening a number of different projects with versions 3.61e
> (build 5653), 3.63 (build 6510), and 3.64 (build 7130) and the 3D geometry
> will not display on my Windows 7 desktop, but will display just fine when I
> run the models on an older XP machine with the same versions of eQuest.
> Anyone know of a fix for this?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks in advance,****
>
> Steven****
>
> ** **
>
> Steven Savich, LEED AP****
>
> Systems West Engineers****
>
> 411 High Street****
>
> Eugene, OR  97401-2427****
>
> (541) 342-7210****
>
> (541) 342-7220 (fax)****
>
> ** **
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Equest-users mailing listhttp://lists.onebuilding.org/listinfo.cgi/equest-users-onebuilding.org
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list send  a blank message to EQUEST-USERS-UNSUBSCRIBE at ONEBUILDING.ORG
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: "Steven Savich" <ssavich at systemswestengineers.com>
> To: "'David Reddy'" <david.j.reddy1 at gmail.com>, <
> equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:58:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7
>
> Thanks for the suggestion David.  Switching to an non-aero visual theme did
> not work, so it may be the graphics card.  I'll see if I can try this out on
> a co-worker's Windows 7 machine.****
>
> ** **
>
> Steven****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *David Reddy
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:36 AM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] eQuest 3-D geometry and Windows 7****
>
> ** **
>
> Steven-
> I have run into this issue and found the solution to use a non-Aero visual
> theme (either permanently set through Control Panel -> Appearance -> Change
> the Theme, or you can define themes on an application basis).  I think this
> problem is graphics card dependent, but not entirely sure.
>
> Hope this helps,
> David
>
> On 10/19/2011 10:01 AM, Steven Savich wrote: ****
>
> Has anyone else had an issue with 3D geometry display and Windows 7?****
>
>  ****
>
> I've tried opening a number of different projects with versions 3.61e
> (build 5653), 3.63 (build 6510), and 3.64 (build 7130) and the 3D geometry
> will not display on my Windows 7 desktop, but will display just fine when I
> run the models on an older XP machine with the same versions of eQuest.
> Anyone know of a fix for this?****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks in advance,****
>
> Steven****
>
>  ****
>
> Steven Savich, LEED AP****
>
> Systems West Engineers****
>
> 411 High Street****
>
> Eugene, OR  97401-2427****
>
> (541) 342-7210****
>
> (541) 342-7220 (fax)****
>
>  ****
>
>
>
>
> ****
>
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>
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>
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