[Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?

Shaun Martin smartin at shaunmartinconsulting.com
Fri Apr 27 11:30:00 PDT 2012


Hi Jeff,
 
Your comments beg the question: what's new in DOE-2.3?  Details please!
 
Shaun
 
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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Hirsch
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:52 PM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?



The Mark Twain quote is most appropriate. Thank you Chris. Our group rarely
participates in these forums, but I felt some response to this somewhat
annoying rumor was needed. Some of the discussion also brings to mind
another familiar proverb: a bad workman always blames his tools. But also I
am reminded that, if all you have is a hammer everything looks like a nail.
So I add to the "controversy" here.

 

eQUEST and DOE-2 are alive and well and our combined development efforts are
at an equal or higher funding and effort level than ever before. However, we
will continue to provide all our DOE-2 and eQUEST products as freeware to
the simulation communities around the world. We support the overall
community activities so that the community can offer analysis and support
services to derive income based upon use of our products.

 

We tend not to compete with the community by offering those same analyses
and support services ourselves with the exception of providing eQUEST and
DOE-2 training. Thus we as a group do not normally offer fee based support
services except to a small group of our long-term clients who also generally
support our development efforts - we leave those fee based support service
opportunities to you, the user community, as an income source. 

 

With thousands of eQUEST and DOE-2 installation around the world, we receive
too many emails per day to possibly respond. We especially cannot respond to
standard support requests as that request should be directed to those
offering fee based support services. We try to pay attention and examine
requests when program bugs or errors are suspected. But quite often we need
to delay any fixes to the next program release. Our focus on DOE-2.3 and
program develop environment changes for both eQUEST and DOE-2 has slowed our
releases for the past two years. That will change this year, so be patient
please.

 

We do not develop eQUEST or DOE-2 using a license fee income based model.
Rather we develop our tools to support the analysis needs of our major
clients and the general user community. We have no plans to change our
model. Like all software, eQUEST and DOE-2 will have quirks, bugs and
limitations. No realistic or truthful company offering software could claim
otherwise. However, we plan to continue making improvements and have the
resources to do so.

 

What is coming? Several things are coming in the next year. DOE-2.3 has been
in beta for some time. We will release that new version when we are
confident it can be used in production work in place of DOE-2.2. A version
of eQUEST that fully supports DOE-2.3 that will be released at the same
time. DOE-2.2 is also still under development, but we tend to implement all
major new features in DOE-2.3 rather than DOE-2.2. We expect to release an
update to both eQUEST and DOE-2.2 soon with DOE-2.3 and its eQUEST version
later. The DOE-2.2 refrigeration version development continues, however more
priority has been placed on DOE-2.3 recently; however, we will also release
an update to that application as well and we consider that version an
important product to continue to upgrade well into the future.

 

I am not sure why rumors of the impending death of DOE-2, that started in
the late 1990's, continue to persist since the evidence for the past fifteen
years should have proven those rumors wrong. Similarly, the rumors about the
death of eQUEST that have appeared more recently can be also similarly be
ignored as completely false. The real history shows that our DOE-2 and
eQUEST products have proven to have more funding and longevity "legs' than
any other existing similar software. While other development groups struggle
to advance one simulation program or one user interface we have shown that
our group can do both the engine and interface with major advances to both
for decades and as freeware. I see no change coming in our ability to
continue the upgrade of both in the current decade. 

 

You should, as a community, be more concerned with the long term viability
of other groups making big claims that have a long way to go before they can
claim to be offering the simulation community the mature, stable, reliable
capabilities free as you get from our products. It is much easier for a
developer to claim their product can do amazing things than it is for the
user community to realize those possible gains while maintaining the ability
to deliver services to their clients competitively in a timely manner. We
plan to do our best to continue to offer you products that allow you to
perform your job or earn a living, and keep your clients satisfied. In
return we ask for your continued support, patience and generally good vibes.
We also ask that you continue to support one another in this and other
forums, as the freeware nature of our products requires the user community
to hang together and exchange information and ideas.

 

With that, I return to my observation deck.

 
ps - For some reason I and others in my group do not get all the emails from
this forum - of the multiple emails Mr. Crossett sent to the forum and
myself below I received none but I did, obviously see the one I am now
responding to. Not sure of the cause, but I do get hundreds of emails per
day and cannot even open many.
 
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Jeff Hirsch
James J. Hirsch & Associates

 
From: Chris Balbach <mailto:cbalbach at psdconsulting.com>  
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:05 AM
To: CleanTech Analytics <mailto:jeremiah at cleantechanalytics.com>  ;
jglazer at gard.com ; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org ; jeff.hirsch at doe2.com

Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?
 

All:

 

I think it was Mark Twain who said "The reports of my death are greatly
exaggerated."   

 

I note a (presumably working) demonstration of the CanQuest software is on
the slate for the ESim conference in Halifax next week. See page 14 of the
ESim Program posted here: http://esim.ca/

 

All the Best,

 

_Chris

 

Chris Balbach, PE, CEM, CMVP, BEAP, BESA, BEMP

Vice President of Research and Development

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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of CleanTech
Analytics
Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:50 PM
To: jglazer at gard.com; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org;
jeff.hirsch at doe2.com
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?

 

List, I do not mean to cause controversy but I am going to re-post this to
see if it gets a response this time. 

 

 

When I had an issue I tracked down the phone number for the Hirsch's of
805-532-1045, and left a voicemail, then was texted back the message
"please send email to  <mailto:jeff.hirsch at doe2.com> jeff.hirsch at doe2.com
and when I emailed the below I
never got a response, and after that as well as after much research showed
there is no DOE funding, or sales revenue to fund the eQuest project assumed
that the project is "dead"....If I am wrong, someone from the eQuest
development team please respond to my questions?

 


Jeff,
I am working on a LEED compliance building model in eQUEST, and have to ask
you a question. So I created a building that has zero insulation, standard
lighting watts/sqft and ran the compliance analysis. The building that is
not at code energy costs are in the sixty thousand range, and the
0,90,180,270 average that should be at code is in the ninty thousand
range.This %30 savings for the building that has zero insulation over the
building that has been auto generated to be complaint with ASHRAE/LEED shows
that for some reason the building that is not at code (zero insulation) uses
30% less then the building that is suppose to be at code, and I am sure that
the software is wrong.

Now I have read the PDF published on the subject, and am very curios if the
compliance analysis tool is something that you believe to work correctly?
(I would be happy to find out I made some error, but can not find any such
errors on my part, and someone told me that the tool does not work so I
doubt it is error on my part)




Jeremiah D. Crossett

CleanTech Analytics

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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Jason Glazer <jglazer at gard.com> wrote:

I am not upset. I just couldn't tell if you meant to just send that to Maria
Elena. My guess is you are going to generate some controversy but that is ok
with me.

Jason



On 4/26/2012 11:28 AM, CleanTech Analytics wrote:

Sorry Jason, could you please school me-- what is going on
with CanQuest? Why is it that the well documented complience
tools can not be used? What should I not say to not upset
the modarater? I only said what I think is true
from research and use of the tool.






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On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jason Glazer

<jglazer at gard.com <mailto:jglazer at gard.com>> wrote:

   Jeremiah,

   Did you mean to send this to the mailing list?

   Jason


   On 4/26/2012 11:16 AM, CleanTech Analytics wrote:

       The eQuest project is dead, anything that is current
       is what
       there is, and there is not more development going
       into the
       code. There many are issues, and no support other
       then this
       list. To use eQuest you must be comfortable with
       developing
       workflows to work around issues you may come across.
       CanQuest will never be finished, so don't hold your
       breath,
       also do not use the compliance tools if you expect
       to create
       a compliant building, as they do not work.

       You could allwees use a spreadsheet to convert, but
       the text
       files are very time consuming to convert to spreadsheet.





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       On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Alex Blue

       <ablue at sustainable-solutions.__ca
       <mailto:ablue at sustainable-solutions.ca>
       <mailto:ablue at sustainable-__solutions.ca


       <mailto:ablue at sustainable-solutions.ca>>> wrote:

           Hi Maria Elena,____

           __ __


           eQuest doesn't have metric units available yet,
       though
           that's one of the major features the Canadian
       version
           (called CanQuest) that is under development will
       add.
           It has been "soon to be released" for a couple
       of years
           now, though, so I would get used to manual unit
           conversions for the moment.____

           __ __

           Alex____

           __ __



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       <mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>] *On
           Behalf Of *Maria Elena Soldatti
           *Sent:* April 25, 2012 5:10 PM

           *To:* equest-users at lists.__onebuilding.org
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       <mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>>
           *Subject:* [Equest-users] Question about Units____

           __ __


           ____

           Can I usemetric units? when andwhere I can makethe
           change in units?____

           __ __

           Thanks. Maria Elena..____


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