[Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?
Robby Oylear
robbyoylear at gmail.com
Fri Apr 27 13:08:33 PDT 2012
eQUEST twitter account to follow for updates/random musings would be pretty
great.... Just a thought :)
-Robby
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Shaun Martin <
smartin at shaunmartinconsulting.com> wrote:
> **
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Your comments beg the question: what's new in DOE-2.3? Details please!
>
> Shaun
>
> Shaun Martin LEED AP
> Principal
> Shaun Martin Consulting
> 2060 Pine Street, Vancouver BC V6J 4P8
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> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Jeff Hirsch
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 7:52 PM
> *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?
>
> The Mark Twain quote is most appropriate. Thank you Chris. Our group
> rarely participates in these forums, but I felt some response to this
> somewhat annoying rumor was needed. Some of the discussion also brings to
> mind another familiar proverb: a bad workman always blames his tools. But
> also I am reminded that, if all you have is a hammer everything looks like
> a nail. So I add to the “controversy” here.
>
>
>
> eQUEST and DOE-2 are alive and well and our combined development efforts
> are at an equal or higher funding and effort level than ever before.
> However, we will continue to provide all our DOE-2 and eQUEST products as
> freeware to the simulation communities around the world. We support the
> overall community activities so that the community can offer analysis and
> support services to derive income based upon use of our products.
>
>
>
> We tend not to compete with the community by offering those same analyses
> and support services ourselves with the exception of providing eQUEST and
> DOE-2 training. Thus we as a group do not normally offer fee based support
> services except to a small group of our long-term clients who also
> generally support our development efforts – we leave those fee based
> support service opportunities to you, the user community, as an income
> source.
>
>
>
> With thousands of eQUEST and DOE-2 installation around the world, we
> receive too many emails per day to possibly respond. We especially cannot
> respond to standard support requests as that request should be directed to
> those offering fee based support services. We try to pay attention and
> examine requests when program bugs or errors are suspected. But quite often
> we need to delay any fixes to the next program release. Our focus on
> DOE-2.3 and program develop environment changes for both eQUEST and DOE-2
> has slowed our releases for the past two years. That will change this year,
> so be patient please.
>
>
>
> We do not develop eQUEST or DOE-2 using a license fee income based model.
> Rather we develop our tools to support the analysis needs of our major
> clients and the general user community. We have no plans to change our
> model. Like all software, eQUEST and DOE-2 will have quirks, bugs and
> limitations. No realistic or truthful company offering software could claim
> otherwise. However, we plan to continue making improvements and have the
> resources to do so.
>
>
>
> What is coming? Several things are coming in the next year. DOE-2.3 has
> been in beta for some time. We will release that new version when we are
> confident it can be used in production work in place of DOE-2.2. A version
> of eQUEST that fully supports DOE-2.3 that will be released at the same
> time. DOE-2.2 is also still under development, but we tend to implement all
> major new features in DOE-2.3 rather than DOE-2.2. We expect to release an
> update to both eQUEST and DOE-2.2 soon with DOE-2.3 and its eQUEST version
> later. The DOE-2.2 refrigeration version development continues, however
> more priority has been placed on DOE-2.3 recently; however, we will also
> release an update to that application as well and we consider that version
> an important product to continue to upgrade well into the future.
>
>
>
> I am not sure why rumors of the impending death of DOE-2, that started in
> the late 1990’s, continue to persist since the evidence for the past
> fifteen years should have proven those rumors wrong. Similarly, the rumors
> about the death of eQUEST that have appeared more recently can be also
> similarly be ignored as completely false. The real history shows that our
> DOE-2 and eQUEST products have proven to have more funding and longevity
> “legs’ than any other existing similar software. While other development
> groups struggle to advance one simulation program or one user interface we
> have shown that our group can do both the engine and interface with major
> advances to both for decades and as freeware. I see no change coming in our
> ability to continue the upgrade of both in the current decade.
>
>
>
> You should, as a community, be more concerned with the long term viability
> of other groups making big claims that have a long way to go before they
> can claim to be offering the simulation community the mature, stable,
> reliable capabilities free as you get from our products. It is much easier
> for a developer to claim their product can do amazing things than it is for
> the user community to realize those possible gains while maintaining the
> ability to deliver services to their clients competitively in a timely
> manner. We plan to do our best to continue to offer you products that allow
> you to perform your job or earn a living, and keep your clients satisfied.
> In return we ask for your continued support, patience and generally good
> vibes. We also ask that you continue to support one another in this and
> other forums, as the freeware nature of our products requires the user
> community to hang together and exchange information and ideas.
>
>
>
> With that, I return to my observation deck.
>
> ps – For some reason I and others in my group do not get all the emails
> from this forum – of the multiple emails Mr. Crossett sent to the forum and
> myself below I received none but I did, obviously see the one I am now
> responding to. Not sure of the cause, but I do get hundreds of emails per
> day and cannot even open many.
>
> ------------------------------
> Jeff Hirsch
> James J. Hirsch & Associates
>
> *From:* Chris Balbach <cbalbach at psdconsulting.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:05 AM
> *To:* CleanTech Analytics <jeremiah at cleantechanalytics.com> ;
> jglazer at gard.com ; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org ;
> jeff.hirsch at doe2.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?
>
>
> All:
>
>
>
> I think it was Mark Twain who said “The reports of my death are greatly
> exaggerated."
>
>
>
> I note a (presumably working) demonstration of the CanQuest software is on
> the slate for the ESim conference in Halifax next week. See page 14 of the
> ESim Program posted here: http://esim.ca/
>
>
>
> All the Best,
>
>
>
> _Chris
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
> *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *CleanTech
> Analytics
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 26, 2012 12:50 PM
> *To:* jglazer at gard.com; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org;
> jeff.hirsch at doe2.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Is eQuest still under development ?
>
>
>
> List, I do not mean to cause controversy but I am going to re-post this to
> see if it gets a response this time.
>
>
>
>
>
> When I had an issue I tracked down the phone number for the Hirsch's of
> 805-532-1045, and left a voicemail, then was texted back the message
> "please send email to jeff.hirsch at doe2.com and when I emailed the below I
> never got a response, and after that as well as after much research showed
> there is no DOE funding, or sales revenue to fund the eQuest project
> assumed that the project is "dead"....If I am wrong, someone from the
> eQuest development team please respond to my questions?
>
>
>
>
> Jeff,
> I am working on a LEED compliance building model in eQUEST, and have to
> ask you a question. So I created a building that has zero insulation,
> standard lighting watts/sqft and ran the compliance analysis. The building
> that is not at code energy costs are in the sixty thousand range, and the
> 0,90,180,270 average that should be at code is in the ninty thousand
> range.This %30 savings for the building that has zero insulation over the
> building that has been auto generated to be complaint with ASHRAE/LEED
> shows that for some reason the building that is not at code (zero
> insulation) uses 30% less then the building that is suppose to be at code,
> and I am sure that the software is wrong.
>
> Now I have read the PDF published on the subject, and am very curios if the
> compliance analysis tool is something that you believe to work correctly?
> (I would be happy to find out I made some error, but can not find any such
> errors on my part, and someone told me that the tool does not work so I
> doubt it is error on my part)
>
>
> *Jeremiah D. Crossett*
>
> *CleanTech Analytics*
>
> *503-688-8951*
>
> *www.cleantechanalytics.com* <http://www.cleantechanalytics.com>
>
>
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>
> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Jason Glazer <jglazer at gard.com> wrote:
>
> I am not upset. I just couldn't tell if you meant to just send that to
> Maria Elena. My guess is you are going to generate some controversy but
> that is ok with me.
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On 4/26/2012 11:28 AM, CleanTech Analytics wrote:
>
> Sorry Jason, could you please school me-- what is going on
> with CanQuest? Why is it that the well documented complience
> tools can not be used? What should I not say to not upset
> the modarater? I only said what I think is true
> from research and use of the tool.
>
>
>
>
> /Jeremiah D. Crossett/
> /CleanTech Analytics/
> /503-688-8951/
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jason Glazer
>
> <jglazer at gard.com <mailto:jglazer at gard.com>> wrote:
>
> Jeremiah,
>
> Did you mean to send this to the mailing list?
>
> Jason
>
>
> On 4/26/2012 11:16 AM, CleanTech Analytics wrote:
>
> The eQuest project is dead, anything that is current
> is what
> there is, and there is not more development going
> into the
> code. There many are issues, and no support other
> then this
> list. To use eQuest you must be comfortable with
> developing
> workflows to work around issues you may come across.
> CanQuest will never be finished, so don't hold your
> breath,
> also do not use the compliance tools if you expect
> to create
> a compliant building, as they do not work.
>
> You could allwees use a spreadsheet to convert, but
> the text
> files are very time consuming to convert to spreadsheet.
>
>
>
>
>
> /Jeremiah D. Crossett/
> /CleanTech Analytics/
>
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> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 6:49 AM, Alex Blue
>
> <ablue at sustainable-solutions.__ca
> <mailto:ablue at sustainable-solutions.ca>
> <mailto:ablue at sustainable-__solutions.ca
>
>
> <mailto:ablue at sustainable-solutions.ca>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Maria Elena,____
>
> __ __
>
>
> eQuest doesn’t have metric units available yet,
> though
> that’s one of the major features the Canadian
> version
> (called CanQuest) that is under development will
> add.
> It has been “soon to be released” for a couple
> of years
> now, though, so I would get used to manual unit
> conversions for the moment.____
>
> __ __
>
> Alex____
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> *From:*equest-users-bounces at __lists.onebuilding.org <mailto:
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> <mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>>] *On
> Behalf Of *Maria Elena Soldatti
> *Sent:* April 25, 2012 5:10 PM
>
> *To:* equest-users at lists.__onebuilding.org
> <mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
> <mailto:equest-users at lists.__onebuilding.org
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> <mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>>
> *Subject:* [Equest-users] Question about Units____
>
> __ __
>
>
> ____
>
> Can I usemetric units? when andwhere I can makethe
> change in units?____
>
> __ __
>
> Thanks. Maria Elena..____
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