[Equest-users] Fuel Metering

[Samantha MacHardy]

Modeling the system with three secondary loops has distributed loads to each building so thank you Brian for the help! Sheila, using the meter in isolation for the boiler is helping to see the loads just on that boiler. While these are helpful, the loads aren't quite lining up. From the BEPS report, I can see that ~5000 MBTU is used for space heating but the sum of the secondary building loops is only producing ~1500 MBTU and even if I include the primary hot water loop in that total it only totals ~2500. Any idea where the difference could be hiding? 

Thanks :)

Samantha

-----Original Message-----
From: Sheila Sagerer [mailto:sheila at energyopportunities.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:41 AM
To: 'Brian Fountain'; Samantha MacHardy
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Fuel Metering

In order to truly isolate the natural gas for the boiler, I would model this using a separate meter created just for the boiler plant along with the three secondary hot water loops (one for each building).  Then, the fuel use for the boiler could be distributed manually to each of the buildings through post-processing using the PS-H reports for each building as suggested by Brian below.

Any additional fuel meters created and assigned to each building would only log the fuel use for domestic hot water, cooking, or other end uses not connected to the central plant boiler.

Good luck and have a nice day.

Sheila Sagerer
Energy Engineer, EIT, LEED AP
Energy Opportunities, Inc, a 7group company
Phone: 717-880-9069
www.sevengroup.com

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Brian Fountain
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:20 AM
To: 'Samantha MacHardy'
Cc: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Fuel Metering

Then it would seem you are modelling the boiler loading (lead - lag) rather than the building loading.  If you wish to isolate the buildings, I think you need 3 hot water loops.  If you wish, they could be secondary loops feeding off a common primary loop, that way you would not have to dedicate boilers to the individual buildings but you could look at the heating loads for the secondary loops on the PS-H reports to see what their heating loads are like.

Hope this helps.

Brian

-----Original Message-----
From: Samantha MacHardy [mailto:SMacHardy at pemi.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:16 AM
To: 'bfountain at greensim.com'
Subject: RE: [Equest-users] Fuel Metering

No, each is fed off of the same loop in the model.

-----Original Message-----
From: bfountain at greensim.com [mailto:bfountain at greensim.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2012 10:03 AM
To: Samantha MacHardy
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Fuel Metering

Are there separate hot water loops for the 3 buildings?
Brian Fountain
bfountain at greensim.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Samantha MacHardy <SMacHardy at pemi.com>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 09:11:11
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