[Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode

Michael Campbell mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com
Fri Nov 2 13:32:54 PDT 2012


Yes, I just had to change the vertices that were referenced by the zone,
which fixed the problem.  I am currently working on creating new zones.



Thanks,



*Mike Campbell E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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*From:* Steven Savich [mailto:ssavich at systemswestengineers.com]
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 4:10 PM
*To:* 'Michael Campbell'; 'Byron Burns'; 'Bishop, Bill';
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
*Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



Were you adding vertices?



Editing can change the "insertion point" of the space WRT the parent floor.



*From:* Michael Campbell
[mailto:mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com<mike at sustainablesolutionscorporation.com>]

*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 12:16 PM
*To:* Byron Burns; ssavich at systemswestengineers.com; Bishop, Bill;
equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
*Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



I tried changing the floor shape using this method and my zones ended up
moving all over the place.  Any ideas why this might be?



*Mike Campbell E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
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*Sustainable Solutions Corporation*

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*From:* Byron Burns [mailto:B.Burns at ha-inc.com]
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 2:17 PM
*To:* ssavich at systemswestengineers.com; Bishop, Bill; Michael Campbell;
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*Subject:* RE: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



Steven,

This is pretty cool, I have looked at that menu bar for months not knowing
what it was used for. I have been trying to figure this out as well over
the past few days.  Glad to see you have a solution.



Just playing around with my model I noticed that the create new (Floor,
Space, and Zone) are grayed out.  However, if you manually add the items in
the Component tree then you can edit them using the method you describe
below.



I take back most of the bad things I said about eQUEST.


*Byron Burns*

*From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org<equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org>]
*On Behalf Of *Steven Savich
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 1:44 PM
*To:* 'Bishop, Bill'; 'Michael Campbell'; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
*Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



If it's a question of modifying some space sizes, an easy way to do that in
the interface is using the geometry editor tool.  It's the similar to the
utility that you use in the Wizard when you trace a CAD plan to develop
custom floor plan & zoning geometry.  You'll have to be in the building
shell 2-D geometry tab. like so:

Normal view.



Select the space you want to modify shape/size, then click the shape view
mode button



You can then edit a zone.  In the screenshot, I haven't selected a space,
so the building floor is highlighted.  You can add/subtract vertices & move
them around.



Steven



*From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [
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*On Behalf Of *Bishop, Bill
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 10:32 AM
*To:* Michael Campbell; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
*Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



Mike,



I prefer to avoid modifying space definitions once I get in DD edit mode.
Maybe you can change interior walls to air walls, or modify interior loads,
zone airflows etc. to approximate the design changes.



If you still feel it necessary to make changes, this is what I would do:

-          Save-as the model to create a backup copy

-          Save-as again to create a third copy of the model

-          Go to wizard mode and make the zone definition changes/additions

-          Switch to DD Edit mode and save the model

-          You now have three models -the original model with all your DD
edit changes, a backup of that model, and a new model with the correct
zones but minus all the other work you did

o   Working with a text editor and the input files of the original model
and the new model, copy the new/modified spaces and zones from the new
model to the original model.

o   Any new definitions that were created with the new spaces/zones will
also have to be copied. This includes polygons, surfaces, zonal systems etc.

o   You might consider copying the entire sections in the input file for
polygons and spaces to make it easier, but this will cause you to lose any
DD edits you made to the spaces

o   Likewise, you can copy the entire zones section of the input file, but
you will lose your systems and zonal property changes that you made in DD
edit mode.

-          Once you finish copying from the new input file to the original
one, save the original input file.

-          Open the original model and don’t be too disappointed when you
get errors.

-          If you can’t correct all the errors, make a backup of your
backup and start again with the input file exercise.



Regards,

Bill



[image: Senior Energy Engineer 28Jun2012] <wbishop at pathfinder-ea.com>



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*On Behalf Of *Michael Campbell
*Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 11:36 AM
*To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
*Subject:* [Equest-users] Adding/modifying zones in detailed mode



Hello,



I’ve done a significant amount of work in the Detailed Data Edit mode and
there was recently a design change with some space modifications.  How can
I modify and add zones in detailed mode?



Thanks,



*Mike Campbell E.I.T., LEED AP O+M
Sustainability Specialist *

*Sustainable Solutions Corporation*

Office: 610-569-1047

www.SustainableSolutionsCorporation.com<http://www.sustainablesolutionscorporation.com/>

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