[Equest-users] checking my glasses?

Aaron Smith asmith at mreng.ca
Fri Dec 6 13:31:59 PST 2013


That's what I see too.  Sounds unusual, especially since Zone 4 has a
minimum EER in Table 6.3.2 to eliminate economizers.  They're required in
the 2010 version for >/= 54,000btu/h.  

 
Aaron Smith, P.Eng 
M&R Engineering 

-----Original Message-----
From: John Aulbach [mailto:jra_sac at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 4:11 PM
To: Javed Iqbal; PKConsulting
Cc: equest-users
Subject: [Equest-users] checking my glasses?

has anyone read ashrae-90.1 2007, page 36 ?? it seems to say that climate
zone 4a (new york city) does NOT require air economizers? this is apparently
new york city adopted code  !!

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------Original Message------
From: PKConsulting <pasha.pkconsulting at gmail.com>
To: "Javed Iqbal" <eee.javed at gmail.com>
Cc: "equest-users" <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Date: Thursday, December 5, 2013 7:09:16 AM GMT-0700
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Excessive pumping power consumption

Javed,  I had a similar issue with high pumping energy on a model last year
Send us your .pd2 and .inp and weather file and I can run it on my computer
and see if I can help you find the issue that is pushing your model results
too high.

Pasha
Ph: 308-763-1593

> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Javed Iqbal <eee.javed at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Continuing to the above problem, I've generated hourly kWh consumption for
all pumps and found that pump power in "Annual Energy Consumption End use
report" is almost double than the summation of hourly pumps kWh consumption
which includes Primary, Secondary and Condenser pumps. 
> 
> Does eQuest reports all pumping power (Primary, Secondary and Condenser
pumps) in pumps & auxiliary section?
> 
> I would appreciate any help on this.
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:35 AM, zhaoyongqing1987
<zhaoyongqing1987 at 126.com> wrote:
>> you can set pump schedule in chilled water loop to force pump running as
per building operating hours .
>> 
>> yongqing zhao
>> 
>> 
>> At 2013-12-04 05:12:08,"John Aulbach" <jra_sac at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Then there is a cooling load that is not shutting off. A space on 24/7?
Send the .INP and .PD2. And version number. Not all of us have gone to 3.65.
>>  
>> John
>> 
>> From: Javed Iqbal <eee.javed at gmail.com>
>> To: John Aulbach <jra_sac at yahoo.com> 
>> Cc: equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 1:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Equest-users] Excessive pumping power consumption
>> 
>> Yes, All the chilled water loop operation is on demand. As such there is
no heating so all the problem is on chilled water pump.
>> 
>> Thanks!!
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM, John Aulbach <jra_sac at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Javel:
>>  
>> Did you put the entity (chiller, boiler) that the pump is serving on
DEMAND? Otherwise, the pump will never stop.
>>  
>> John R. Aulbach, PE
>> 
>> From: Javed Iqbal <eee.javed at gmail.com>
>> To: equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 3, 2013 12:58 PM
>> Subject: [Equest-users] Excessive pumping power consumption
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> 
>> I'm simulating a large commercial building for LEED compliance. There i
am facing a major issue in pumping power annual consumption. The proposed
case pumping power is almost 7 times higher than the ASHRAE baseline case
which  has great impact on my overall anticipated savings. I've generated
hourly report to see the pump operations power and found propose case pump
is running all year round whereas baseline is running as per building
operating hours. I've thoroughly checked all the schedules assigned and it
seems fine to me. My gut feeling is there is some load which is driving the
pump to run throughout the year. I would appreciate if someone can give
expert advice to troubleshoot this.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in Advance!!
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> Javed Iqbal, LEED AP, CEA
>> Sr. Energy Analyst 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Javed Iqbal, LEED AP, CEA
>> Sr. Energy Analyst 
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> Javed Iqbal, LEED AP, CEA
> Sr. Energy Analyst 
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