[Equest-users] Problem with Fan Power in the Baseline Model System 6

Nick Caton ncaton at smithboucher.com
Tue Sep 3 10:01:44 PDT 2013


Hi Morteza!


1.       Recognize there are separate rules/requirements to determine power for system supply/return fans (Pfan), and for terminal unit fans.  The rules you cited regarding minimum flow fraction and 0.35 W/CFM are specific to the fans in the terminal units.  Power for the associated supply fan delivering pre-reheat air to those terminal units is determined through the "Pfan" procedures.  I advise reviewing the associated passages in 90.1 appendix G to ensure you understand what others' spreadsheets are replicating before proceeding.  This will help you to utilize such tools correctly and effectively.

2.       There are two means of specifying fan power in eQuest - you may use one or the other.  Coming out of the wizards, by default eQuest will start with the ESP/fan+motor efficiency inputs.  To instead utilize the kW/CFM inputs, navigate to the system fan tab, then right click the inputs for ESP/efficiency on the same screen and press 'r' or click "restore default" in the context menu.  This will switch the input method back to kW/CFM and an option to manually define the temperature rise across the fan.

Regards,

~Nick
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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Morteza Kasmai
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:16 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] Problem with Fan Power in the Baseline Model System 6

Dear Experts,
 I am straggling to input Fan Power in the baseline model (System 6 - Packaged VAV with PFP Boxes) and have the following issues:
1- In Table 1.4.6 - General HVAC, there is a note for this type of system that requires
 "All Baseline fans in parallel VAV fan-powered boxes sized for 50% of peak primary airflow and modeled with 0.35 W/cfm fan power and a minimum flow setpoint of 30% of peak (or minimum ventilation rate) per G3.1.3.14".
Supply and return air of the system are equal, 49,202 cfm for each. Based on this cfm, supply fan power and return fan power is 17.22 KW (49,202 * 0.35). This number is different with the figure from ASHRAE 90.1-2007 Baseline Fan Power Calculator (The spreadsheet from 7group). In addition, when I input the supply and return cfm and 17.22 KW for both fans in "Table 1.4.7A - Baseline Air-Side HVAC System Schedule", it indicates "Allowed Fan Power" to be 55.4 KW and it will be red out with any other numbers input as system fan power.
 2- In eQUEST's "Fan Power and Control" screen, the input boxes for supply and return design KW/cfm are grayed out (n/) and I cannot input any data for the fan powers.
As always, I would truly appreciate your comments,
Morteza



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