[Equest-users] Fwd: heat recovery and zone exhaust
Vipul Babriya
vipulbabriya at aol.com
Fri Sep 13 08:20:15 PDT 2013
Thanks Bruce,
The project is located in NYC, and the DOB has already been approved the design. The intent is to recover the conditioned air from apartment and use it to preheat the 100% OA that will be supplied to Corridors using heat recovery wheel.
Thanks,
Vipul
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Easterbrook <bruce5 at bellnet.ca>
To: Vipul Babriya <vipulbabriya at aol.com>
Cc: wbishop <wbishop at pathfinder-ea.com>; JHANSEN <JHANSEN at ghtltd.com>; equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Sent: Thu, Sep 12, 2013 5:34 pm
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] heat recovery and zone exhaust
I don't think building codes will allow you to do that, not easily anyway. An Ontario/Canada perspective though. Each of the apartments will be it's own fire compartment. Everything breaking this barrier will need fire dampers. All fire dampers need man access. May be much more trouble than it is worth.
Bruce Easterbrook P.Eng.
Abode Engineering
On 12/09/2013 04:35 PM, Vipul Babriya wrote:
Hello Bill/James,
I have a typical situation for DOAS system that serves fresh air (100% OA) to corridor spaces in multifamily building. The DOAS unit is equiped with heat recovery wheel, and uses the exhaust air from apartments, i.e. exhaust from bathroom and kitchen rather than return air from corridor itself. How would i model the system that uses recovered heat from one system to another in the eQUEST.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Vipul
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From: Bishop, Bill <wbishop at pathfinder-ea.com>
To: James Hansen <JHANSEN at ghtltd.com>; equest-users <equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
Sent: Wed, Dec 15, 2010 10:04 am
Subject: Re: [Equest-users] heat recovery and zone exhaust
James,
Make sure to NOT enter zonal exhaust flows if your intention is for the air to return to the ERV. Specifying zonal exhaust simulates air leaving the zone through a separate exhaust fan (think bathrooms, kitchens, clothes dryers) and not returning to the air handling unit.
Regards,
Bill
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From: equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of James Hansen
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 9:59 AM
To: equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Equest-users] heat recovery and zone exhaust
I’m having the typical issues with getting an enthalpy wheel to show appreciable savings. I’ve adjusted some of the control sequences, and have managed to show a savings in cooling energy, but I’m getting no heating savings, which is strange, unless my building is actually asking for cold OA during the winter because of the rather large internal heat loads (my guess is that this is true).
My question is whether you HAVE to define zonal exhaust airflow rates to properly show the savings from heat recovery, or if the program knows that the exhaust will roughly match the OA delivered to the space? Do I have to turn on exhaust tracking?
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