[Equest-users] Section 179D Question

Steve Jacobs sjacobseng at gmail.com
Fri Apr 25 08:05:49 PDT 2014


I agree that it is explicit on what version 90.1-2001 to use and what 
addendum. But there is no such clarification on the version of Appendix G.

- Steve

On 4/25/2014 8:51 AM, Paul Riemer wrote:
>
> The legislation clearly states ASHRAE 90.1-2001 as in effect on April 
> 2, 2003 and lists which addenda that includes.  The NREL published 
> 'Guidelines' document says the same thing.
>
> It combines tax law, accounting, building design, and energy modeling 
>  so yes  there are lots of 'hiccups' out there.
>
> **
>
> *Paul Riemer, PE, LEED AP BD+C*
>
> *DUNHAM*
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> *From:*equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
> [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of 
> *Steve Jacobs
> *Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 9:32 AM
> *To:* Busby, Aaron; Tom Mickley; equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Equest-users] Section 179D Question
>
> I'm not aware of anything says we can or can't use addendum to 
> Appendix G. It is certainly frustrating not having anywhere to take 
> questions. The inability for modelers to seek clarifications means 
> that the community is probably taking a lot of different approaches to 
> the incentive.
>
>
>
> On 4/25/2014 6:56 AM, Busby, Aaron wrote:
>
>     ASHRAE 90.1 has several addendums now that have added system
>     types, just for warehouse type spaces where they are heated only. 
>     Look for Addenda DN, system types 10 and 11.
>
>     */Aaron Busby, PE,  LEED AP/*
>
>     Tel: 770.563.1522
>     Cell: 678.642.7549
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>     *From:* equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
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>     [mailto:equest-users-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of
>     *Tom Mickley
>     *Sent:* Friday, April 25, 2014 8:38 AM
>     *To:* equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org
>     <mailto:equest-users at lists.onebuilding.org>
>     *Subject:* [Equest-users] Section 179D Question
>
>     Has anyone run a baseline building for a retrofit building to
>     qualify a business owner for the Section 179D tax deduction?  It
>     seems simple enough to model the existing building based on ASHRAE
>     90.1 standards.  Has anyone found any potential "hiccups" along
>     the way that has prevented the up to $1.80/sq tax deduction aside
>     from the obvious of not meeting the energy upgrade percentage?
>
>     Here's my main concern.  I have a cabinet manufacturer customer
>     who has a 100,000sf metal building that is roughly 30% wood
>     working or manufacturing, 65% warehouse storage and 5% office
>     space.  95% of this facility is heated only.  Do I have to include
>     cooling in the baseline from ASHRAE 90.1 system 5 on appendix G,
>     table G3.1.1.A?  The only upgrades we are proposing are to take
>     out the air rotation unit and radiant tube vacuum systems and a
>     few other minor items.
>
>     Any advice would help.  Thanks in advance.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Tom Mickley
>
>     Mechanical Engineer CEM
>
>     The K Company
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>     Cell 330-760-3994
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>     Office 330-773-5125
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