[Bldg-rate] Waste to energy plants

Eric O'Neill elo at MichaelsEngineering.com
Thu Oct 9 10:16:47 PDT 2008

Thanks Helen. The project is actually located in Minnesota; had it been
in Madison or Milwaukee wastecap would be quite a useful resource.
Thanks for bringing it to my attention. 


I did find a CIR asking this exact question under NC (I apologize; I was
looking at CIR's on a CI project). It states:


"The CIR is inquiring if the diversion of non-recyclable materials to an
EPA approved Waste to Energy facility qualifies as construction waste
diversion for the purposes of this credit. The credit intent states,
"Divert construction and demolition debris from disposal in landfills
and incinerators." Based on the credit intent, incineration of
construction waste materials cannot be used as an alternative for
diverting waste from the landfill."



From: Helen Kessler [mailto:hjkessler at hjkesslerassociates.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:35 AM
To: Eric O'Neill
Subject: RE: [Bldg-rate] Waste to energy plants




There's an organization called WasteCap Wisconsin which may be of help
to you.  I don't believe that LEED will recognize incineration, even if
used for electricity.  There may be some credit interpretations on this.





Helen J. Kessler, FAIA, LEED Accredited Professional


phone 773.975.6467

fax 773.409.5499


Consultants in sustainable design, energy efficiency and high
performance buildings




From: bldg-rate-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-rate-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Eric
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:26 AM
To: bldg-rate at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-rate] Waste to energy plants

Hello everyone,


I'm working on a LEED NC project, and had a question about MR credit 2.
It is also pertinent to LEED EB - O&M MR credit 7 and LEED CI - MR
credit 2. The intent is to reduce the amount of waste that is diverted
to landfills and incinerators. However, in this particular city the
paper and plastic products are "recycled" by burning them to generate
electricity (this is where the garbage goes too...). 


Although it's going to an incinerator, it is technically being reused.
However, underlying part of the intent is to minimize the need for
virgin materials as well as minimize pollutants in the air. Obviously,
waste to energy doesn't do this. The trouble is, actually recycling
materials requires shipping it nearly 100 miles (although I'm still
looking) to the nearest facility which does it the way LEED indicates. 


Has anyone had experience with this? 

Eric O'Neill 
Mechanical Engineer 
Energy Division - Michaels Engineering 

811 Monitor St. Ste 100 
La Crosse, WI 54603 
v: 608-785-1900 x521 
f: 608-784-2270 
elo at michaelsengineering.com 

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