[Bldg-sim] Query on DesignBuilder and EnergyPlus: Impact of air velocity on thermal comfort

Griffith, Brent Brent.Griffith at nrel.gov
Wed Dec 16 08:20:03 PST 2009


EnergyPlus does include room air velocity term in Fanger model.  It looks like this detail did not make it into the E+'s Engineering Reference, but a value for forced convection surface heat transfer coefficient is calculated using:
Hc = 12.1 * SQRT(velocity)

However, the calculations take the larger of either a natural convection Hc or the forced convection Hc, so the air velocity might not be used in all situations.

Brent

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Subject: [Bldg-sim] Query on DesignBuilder and EnergyPlus: Impact of air velocity on thermal comfort

Hi,

I am trying to model the impact of ceiling fans on thermal comfort in a warm-humid climate, for a naturally ventilated building. Intial simulation runs obviously show a lot of discomfort with PMV going upto 5.5 during peak summer. We want to model ceiling fans so that the impact of air velocity on thermal comfort is captured. Naturally this wont lead to achieving thermal comfort conditions in the space but we feel that it should at least result in PMV coming down to 4-4.5. I am not sure if doing this is possible in DesignBuilder but I think one can specify an object called AirVelocity schedule in EnergyPlus, where one can input air velocity in m/s in one of the fields (the current EPlus default being 0.137). I want to know that if we modify (increase) the value of air velocity to about 0.7 (for ceiling fans), would it be used for comfort calculations? I thought the Fanger comfort model algorithms use air velocity for calculations but I can't see that happening anywhere in the Eplus Engineering reference, which could also have been a resultant of my limited understanding of the subject matter. I also noticed that the Pierce model takes air velocity into account. Does this mean that we should rather look at the Pierce model rather than the Fanger model in order to arrive at an adaptive model of thermal comfort? What we basically want to do is to make sure that the increased air velocity is used for calculation of PMV in EnergyPlus to model the impact of ceiling fans.

I would be really grateful for any help.

Regards,


Sanyogita Manu
Energy Efficiency Research Associate
USAID ECO-III Project
International Resources Group (IRG)
Hauz Khas, New Delhi 110016
Email: smanu at irgssa.com<mailto:smanu at irgssa.com>

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