[Bldg-sim] IES-VE Energy

Varkie C Thomas thomasv at iit.edu
Mon Feb 23 11:23:19 PST 2009


Thanks for the responses and telephone calls.  Most of them were sent to me directly.  The general picture I got was that TRACE700 does a better job of importing Revit data than IESVE.  Importing and other problems can be fixed.  Is the IESVE program in metric only?.
Varkie   

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Stirling Walkes <Swalkes at smseng.com> 
Date: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:11 am 
Subject: RE: [Bldg-sim] IES-VE Energy 
To: Varkie C Thomas <thomasv at iit.edu>, Bldg-Sim <bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org>, CARNEY Ronan <Ronan.CARNEY at projectservices.qld.gov.au> 

> Thanks for the tip Ronan. Did you create a room schedule within 
> Revit to monitor rooms and loads within rooms to ensure that they 
> have been carried over properly? Or have you found that it isn't 
> worth the time? 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> Stirling 
> 
> 
> >>> "CARNEY Ronan" <Ronan.CARNEY at projectservices.qld.gov.au> 
> 2/22/2009 5:13 PM >>> 
> I strongly advise you not to use this option. If Revit, looses a 
> room, it's likely that you'll not even notice it. I created a full 
> model of a 50million project within Revit from the Architectural 
> model. Loaded it into IES and lost 75% of all rooms, that's over 
> 200 rooms, all lost. 
> My solution is, purchase the software, draw all model from sratch 
> within IES of Sketchup, Stay away from IES with Revit, it always 
> falls over or is incorrect or requires 3 or 4 times of repetitive 
> data entry e.g. construction properties. 
> 
> Kind Regards 
> Ronan Carney 
> 
> ________________________________ 
> 
> From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org on behalf of Stirling 
> WalkesSent: Mon 23/02/2009 12:56 AM 
> To: Varkie C Thomas; Bldg-Sim 
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] IES-VE Energy 
> 
> 
> REVIT MEP comes with the IES VE load analysis built in. But I 
> think you need to have the full version to analyze the energy 
> consumption based on systems and lighting etc. 
> 
> I have found that as long as the spaces have been set up correctly 
> by the architect in Revit generating the geometry for the energy 
> model is done by Revit and takes a couple of minutes to determine 
> interior vs exterior walls/windows etc. (depending on the size of 
> the building and the capacity of the computer doing the 
> calculations). The calculations will generate a room by room load 
> calculation which can be imported back to the model and allocated 
> to the individual spaces. 
> 
> Vs doing an import of the Autocad drawing and tracing the shape, 
> locating windows etc. Time savings can be significant. 
> 
> However, I have only yet used it for loads for equipment sizing 
> and not for an energy simulation. 
> 
> Regards, 
> 
> 
> 
> V. Stirling Walkes, P.Eng., LEED AP 
> Partner 
> SMS Engineering Ltd. 
> 770 Bradford Street 
> Winnipeg MB R3H 0N3 Canada 
> phone: 204.775.0291 
> fax: 204.772.2153 
> Swalkes at smseng.com 
> 
> 
> >>> Varkie C Thomas <thomasv at iit.edu> 2/21/2009 4:22 PM >>> 
> 
> 
> I have been asked by an ME/AE firm to check out IES-VE Energy. 
> This firm makes extensive use of the Revit programs for design. 
> 
> I downloaded the trial version of 'IES-VE-Ware/Toolkits 5.9 
> Setup' and tried to run/install it and I got the following 
> message: "You require an installation of Google Stetchup 6, etc., 
> to install VE-Ware" 
> 
> I downloaded 'IES<VE>5.9 SketchUp Plug-in Setup' and tried to 
> install this and got the following message: "You must have a copy 
> of IES<Virtual Environment>5.9 installed before attempting to 
> install this plug-in" 
> 
> I am interested in trying out IES-VE Energy component only. Is 
> there a trial version for this? Is there a tutorial that I can 
> refer to when trying to learn how to use this program? 
> 
> The IES-VE website shows 2 engineering clients - Syska Hennessy 
> and Vanderweil Engineering. How many building projects have been 
> analyzed with IES-VE for energy performance by US AE firms? 
> 
> Why use IES-VE-Energy when DOE2.1E and eQUEST are free and TRACE 
> and HAP are inexpensive with excellent customer support? 
> 
> Is there statistical data by type & size of project, on the energy 
> programs used in the US for code compliance and LEED certification? 
> 
> Varkie Thomas 
> 
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