[Bldg-sim] Fwd: SketchUp 2 DAYSIM v.3 Error

Dr. Nader Chalfoun chalfoun at email.arizona.edu
Mon Feb 15 06:47:48 PST 2010


Thomas:

Thank you for your reply.  I do not think the error is for spaces in
names.  After we export the file, Daysim cannot open the exported file
needing more files that never generated by Sketchup.

So my guess is that we are not doing the right steps in Skecthup export
to daysim.

Is there any more detailed instructions on how to export to daysim from
sketchup.. something like step-by-step for 1st timers?

Nader

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Coordinator: Environmental Education Ph.D. Minor
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Quoting Thomas Bleicher <tbleicher at googlemail.com>:

> Hi all.
>
> I don't see anything attached to this messages so this is a bit speculation:
>
> It is true that Daysim handles spaces in filenames poorly. You should
> export to a path that does not contain spaces like "C:\temp\daysim\"
> or the "projects" folder in the Daysim installation.
>
> Sketchup also has problems with most characters that are not ASCII
> (like accented characters). They should not be used in file paths,
> material names, group names etc.
>
> Finally there is a bug in su2rad_daysim_r03 which has appeared
> recently, probably only triggered in an updated Sketchup version. If
> that happens the export stops during the process and you only get a
> *.rif file but no *.rad file which contains the geometry (and
> is what you're really interested in). If that is the case please
> contact me directly for a patch and further trouble shooting if
> necessary.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alex Krickx
> <akrickx at seriousmaterials.com> wrote:
>> Hi Nader,
>>
>> I'm not very familiar with Daysim (only used it once or twice) but I 
>> do remember from using Radiance that "spaces" (as in when you hit 
>> the spacebar key) are delimiters. In order to make sure that they're 
>> not misused underscores must be used (hence the program title 
>> "su2rad_daysim_r03", no spaces). I believe this applies to all 
>> materials (ext wall should be ext_wall) textures (rough concrete > 
>> rough_concrete) etc.
>>
>> As all the output files for Radiance/Daysim are text based, you 
>> should be able to open them in notepad/wordpad and scroll through to 
>> ensure that your naming convention is correct.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Alex Krickx
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org 
>> [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Dr. 
>> Nader Chalfoun
>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 2:41 PM
>> To: BldgSim Mailing List; Jimmy Keller; Omar Al-hassawi
>> Subject: [Bldg-sim] Fwd: SketchUp 2 DAYSIM v.3 Error
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> We have followed the step-by-step process 'Exporting From SketchUp' 
>> as outlined in Section 4.1.1 (pg 32) of the 'DAYSIM 2.1 Tutorial' 
>> dated April 27, 2006.  We are using Sketchup v. 7 and DAYSIM v. 3.0 
>> (beta).
>>
>> We created a simple one-room 20'x20'x10'h model w/ 1 window in 
>> SketchUp (no layers).  We then attempted to export the model into a 
>> .rif file using the su2rad_daysim_r03 plugin.
>>
>> We have had trouble loading the .rif file into DAYSIM.  We get an 
>> error message (see attachment or below).
>>
>> Is there an update to the procedure specific to DAYSIM v.3  that we 
>> are not aware of?
>>
>>
>> Nader
>>
>> --------------------------------------------
>> Nader V. Chalfoun, Ph.D., LEED AP, CEA
>> Professor of Architecture
>> Director: The House Energy Doctor Program 
>> http://houseenergydoctor.arizona.edu
>> Coordinator: Graduate Program on "Design and Energy Conservation"
>> Coordinator: Environmental Education Ph.D. Minor Faculty on Global 
>> Change Ph.D. Minor
>>
>> Address:
>> University of Arizona
>> College of Architecture and Landscape Architecture 1040 N. Olive 
>> St., Tucson, AZ 85721, U.S.A.
>> Phone: (520)621-6751    Fax: (520)621-8700
>>
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