[Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?

Joe Huang YJHuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
Fri Jul 16 13:17:43 PDT 2010


Fei Zhao,

I've done work developing residential prototypes for the Gas Research 
Institute (GRI) starting in the late 80's. The GRI prototypes contain
around 120 detached configurations and 60 attached configurations (16 
locations x 3-7 vintages), all done in DOE-2.1C. You're welcomed to look 
at these, but the "new" vintages would need to be updated from the 80's 
to now, and you would also need to delve into my preprocessing system 
that predates DOE-2 macros.

At this point, I would recommend looking at the generic residential 
model I developed in the late 90's for use in RESFEN and now being
used (with adaptations) for ORNL's web-based Roof Savings Calculator. 
What's makes the model generic is that the template file is scalable
by building floor area, number of floors (1 or 2), and flexible in 
accepting user-defined location, envelope R-values, window area,
etc. through extensive use of DOE-2 macros.

If you want to look at this generic residential model, you can download 
and install the RESFEN program from the LBNL Window Group website. Then, 
go to DATA subfolder and look for template.new, which is the DOE-2 
template file.

Joe


Joe Huang
White Box Technologies, Inc.
346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
Moraga CA 94556
(o) +925 388 0265
(c) +510 928 2683
yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
www.whiteboxtechnologies.com


Fei Zhao wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Do you know if there are any prototypical models for residential buildings
> developed too?
> Thank you!
> 
> 
> Fei Zhao
> Ph.D. Student, LEED AP
> Building Technology Group, College of Architecture
> Georgia Institute of Technology
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deru, Michael [mailto:Michael.Deru at nrel.gov] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:25 PM
> To: Joe Huang; Morgan Heater
> Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
> 
> Seven of the models are essentially the same as developed by Joe and
> colleagues.  The two schools, three retail buildings, small hotel,
> outpatient, and warehouse models were changed to align with models developed
> through the Advanced Energy Design Guides published by ASHRAE.  In addition,
> we added a midrise apartment building.  For the seven models remaining from
> LBNL, we did make some changes to the HVAC and constructions based on
> surveys of CBECS and input from the 90.1 committees.
> 
> 
> Michael Deru, Ph.D.
> Senior Engineer II
> Commercial Buildings Research Group
> National Renewable Energy Laboratory
> 303-384-7503 (o)
> 303-725-3528 (c)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
> [mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Joe Huang
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 3:51 PM
> To: Morgan Heater
> Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
> 
> Yes and no. My original prototypes were reviewed in a 18-month interlab
> effort between LBNL (where I was at the time), PNNL, and NREL. A team of
> three working under me updated the prototypes to ASHRAE 90.1-2003, as well
> as incorporating comments, received mostly from PNNL and DOE. At DOE's
> request, we also converted the building files from DOE-2 BDL to EnergyPlus
> IDF, and delivered both sets to DOE, PNNL, and NREL. After my departure from
> LBNL in June 2007, NREL continued working on the EnergyPlus files, and
> released them in 2009. I have not looked at these, but according to my LBNL
> colleague these are essentially the same building models, although there
> have been some improvements to the system inputs from what I had delivered.
> 
> 
> Joe Huang
> White Box Technologies, Inc.
> 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
> Moraga CA 94556
> (o) +925 388 0265
> (c) +510 928 2683
> yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
> www.whiteboxtechnologies.com
> 
> 
> Morgan Heater wrote:
>> Are your prototypes the ones that were converted into the energyplus 
>> files referenced here?
>>
>> http://www1.eere.energy.gov/buildings/commercial_initiative/reference_
>> buil
>> dings.html
>>
>> If you had a doe-2 version of the medium office prototype, that would 
>> be really helpful.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joe Huang [mailto:YJHuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 2:17 PM
>> To: Morgan Heater
>> Cc: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
>> Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Prototype Commercial Building?
>>
>> Are you referring to a prototypical commercial office building?
>> While at LBNL, I developed a suite of 486 prototypical commercial 
>> buildings covering 16 building types of three vintages in 16 cities, 
>> that were later generalized to around 120 regional prototypes.
>>
>> These were originally developed in the early 1990's as DOE-2 files, 
>> but were converted to EnergyPlus in 2005-2007 and now exist as DOE's 
>> benchmark buildings available on the NREL web site.  However, I did 
>> all the development work in DOE-2, and still have all these DOE-2 
>> files, with the intention of putting them on my Web site at some 
>> point.
>>
>> I can send you the medium office prototype if you're interested.
>> A distinguishing feature of these prototypes is that the input files 
>> are highly modular and make extensive use of DOE-2 macros to set the 
>> key building parameters (size, number of floors, interior conditions, 
>> etc.). This makes the building models very flexible and extensible.
>> After all, I've yet to meet a researcher who just wanted to have an 
>> input file and do a run without any modifications.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> Joe Huang
>> White Box Technologies, Inc.
>> 346 Rheem Blvd. Suite 108D
>> Moraga CA 94556
>> (o) +925 388 0265
>> (c) +510 928 2683
>> yjhuang at whiteboxtechnologies.com
>> www.whiteboxtechnologies.com
>>
>>
>> Morgan Heater wrote:
>>> Hi - I'm looking for either a doe2 model or a list of modeling 
>>> parameters for a prototype commercial building.  Ideally, I'm looking 
>>> for a model that's for a typical commercial building around 40,000 
>>> square feet that's been used/validated in other research projects.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Anybody have any leads?  Thanks. 
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Morgan Heater, PE, LEED AP
>>>
>>> Ecotope, Inc
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> (206) 322-3753 x209
>>>
>>> 4056 9th Avenue NE
>>>
>>> Seattle, WA  98105
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
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