[Bldg-sim] sizing for baseline case acc to App. G
Jackson, Alan
ajackson at klingstubbins.com
Tue Jun 29 08:56:35 PDT 2010
No. This is a function of the flow, not the capacity.
Alan Jackson, LEED AP
KlingStubbins
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Chris Yates
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 7:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] sizing for baseline case acc to App. G
So does that mean, for an all air system, off-coil temperature is
actually lower in cooling and higher in heating for the startup period?
Chris
On 24/06/2010 12:16, Seth P. Spangler wrote:
Vinay,
You are to increase the cooling/heating coil capacities as required by
ASHRAE Appendix G. However, the over sizing is for coil capacity only -
the airflow rate should be sized at 100% of what your energy modeling
program calculates as being required to meet the space load.
Thanks
Seth Spangler, LEED(r) AP
RMF Engineering, Inc
Ph: (843) 971-9639 ext:1497
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sspangle at rmf.com
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of James V
Dirkes II, PE
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 7:16 PM
To: 'Vinay Devanathan'; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] sizing for baseline case acc to App. G
Dear Vinay,
I'm not sure of the rationale for the ASHRAE 90.1 oversizing
requirements, however here are my thoughts:
I think the principal engineering rationale for oversizing is to allow a
building to reach its setpoint temperature quickly after a period of
inactivity. As an example, if a building is inactive during a holiday
and the temperature is allowed to float several degrees lower (in
winter), the additional 25% heating capacity will enable faster return
to the normal setpoint temperature. Steam heating systems can need even
more capacity for proper warmup capacity.
Oversizing is also a common practice as a "safety factor". Most load
calculation software even has a separate input for adding this "safety
factor".
The Building Performance Team
James V. Dirkes II, P.E., LEED AP
1631 Acacia Drive NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49504
616 450 8653
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Vinay
Devanathan
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:00 AM
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Subject: [Bldg-sim] sizing for baseline case acc to App. G
Hello All,
Just to clarify a point -
What does the oversizing of capacities by 15% for cooling and 25% for
heating exactly mean? Do we only size the cooling and heating capacity
or also increase the airflow rate corresponding to the oversizing?
Thank you.
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