[Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams

Pavel Dybskiy pdybskiy at gmail.com
Thu Jun 7 18:05:23 PDT 2012


Thank you all!

Now I know where should I start from

Poll reveals :)
Visio  and CAD 27 % of votes;
OpenStudio , Word, Excel, InkScape 9% each.

P.S. Surprisingly stable picture, a majority of names are older than 17
years :)

Pavel


On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Fred Betz <fbetz at aeieng.com> wrote:

>  Pavel,****
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> I like Visio for simple/moderately complex drawings on any kind including
> HVAC. ****
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> It is easy to put something together quickly. Also it is easy to create
> .pdf or paste drawings into other Microsoft products in order to share
> them. ****
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> However, I wouldn’t use it for anything beyond concept drawings or
> presentation materials. I prefer Autocad or Revit for design/construction
> drawings. The CAD features of Visio are limited so any really detailed or
> accurate work should use a real CAD program. ****
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> Hope that helps. ****
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> Fred****
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> *From:* Pavel Dybskiy [mailto:pdybskiy at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 07, 2012 10:27 AM
> *To:* EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Bldg-sim] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams****
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> Sorry for cross-posting,****
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> Does anyone use MS Visio for sketching HVAC diagrams? ****
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> Is it a good alternative to Ms Word, which is somehow tolerable for simple
> diagrams, but gets really out of hands for bigger diagrams?****
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> The shapes, which are included in Visio, are they helpful, meaningful,
> give professional look?****
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> Somebody is using Excel (might be lacking flexibility when topology is
> unknown).****
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> Somebody is using Inkscape.
> Any other thoughts****
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> Thank you,****
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> Pavel Dybskiy****
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> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jim Dirkes <
> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com> wrote:****
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> No “tool” Pavel, just Excel with formatted cells and arrows – pretty
> unsophisticated, but easier (I think) than learning Inkscape.  I know of
> others using Inkscape, however, and it looks like a very capable tool.****
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> *From:* EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Pavel Dybskiy
> *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 6:18 PM
> *To:* EnergyPlus_Support at yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* [EnergyPlus_Support] Tools to draw HVAC diagrams****
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> Hi Jim,****
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> What tool do you use to draw your diagram?****
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> Dear List,****
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> I'm wondering if you can share your thoughts on your favorite tool to
> draft efficiently such diagrams.****
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> Is there anything better than pencil and paper?****
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> Thanks,****
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> Paul
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> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Jim Dirkes <
> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com> wrote:****
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> Dear Forum,****
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> The schematic I have attached is a common boiler plant piping
> configuration in my experience, using an individual constant speed pump for
> each boiler, plus a variable speed distribution pump.****
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> Officially it’s a “primary – secondary pumping loop”.****
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> I cannot make the primary pumps shut off when the corresponding boiler is
> inactive.  Has anyone successfully modeled this configuration?  Do you know
> of an example file with this configuration?****
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> Thanks in advance.****
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> *Making me think….*****
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> Why is it?  We routinely use miracles of creativity and technology that
> 50-100 years ago would be considered impossible or black magic … and also
> assume that whole segments of society are incapable of helping themselves
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> Best Regards,
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> Pavel Dybskiy
> M.A.Sc. Candidate, Department of Architectural Science
> Faculty of Engineering, Architecture and Science, Ryerson University
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