[Bldg-sim] Addition, or Separate Building?
Christian Kaltreider
ckaltreider at sudassociates.com
Tue Dec 10 11:58:16 PST 2013
Interesting, thanks for the helpful responses. I can move forward from
here.
Thanks,
Christian
Christian Kaltreider, LEED AP | Energy Analyst
Sud Associates, P.A. | T 828.255.4691 | F 828.255.4949 |
www.sudassociates.com
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Nick Caton
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 12:01 PM
To: David Eldridge; bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Addition, or Separate Building?
I agree completely.
Let the scope/purpose of your modeling efforts decide whether modeling both
building as one model is going to be beneficial.
>From my experience, the extra work entailed in properly setting up a
representative "campus" plan may well be less work than just modeling both
buildings, and if in the course of your studies you intend to address
efficiency measures applied/unique to both buildings, I expect it will be
more efficient and simpler to work within a unified project.
Best regards,
~Nick
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NICK CATON, P.E.
SENIOR ENGINEER
Smith & Boucher Engineers
25501 west valley parkway, suite 200
olathe, ks 66061
direct 913.344.0036
fax 913.345.0617
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[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of David Eldridge
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:30 AM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: Re: [Bldg-sim] Addition, or Separate Building?
90.1 is flexible to model only one building or as a combined building, the
determinant is what the client's purpose is in deciding to have an energy
model project completed.
You could obviously model the whole complex with the specific central plant
equipment, or else a single building could be modeled using district energy
sources for heating and cooling depending on what the goal was for the
study.
David
David S. Eldridge, Jr., P.E., LEED AP BD+C, BEMP, BEAP, HBDP
Grumman/Butkus Associates
From: bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org
[mailto:bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] On Behalf Of Christian
Kaltreider
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:09 AM
To: bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
Subject: [Bldg-sim] Addition, or Separate Building?
Hello Group,
I am modeling an existing building which could be seen as two buildings
connected by a short hallway. The quick story on this facility is that
there were two buildings which were connected by hallways at some point, and
are now on the same chilled and hot water systems. I'm having trouble
finding a clear definition in 90.1 which tells me whether I should be
modeling this as one building or two with a shared energy plant. This is
not a LEED project; I am only interested in a 90.1 interpretation.
Does anyone know of any clarifications, interpretations, or past experience
which could help guide me?
Thanks,
Christian
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