[Bldg-sim] economiser for climate zone 1

Chris Yates chris.malcolm.yates at gmail.com
Thu Jun 13 04:16:06 PDT 2013


Great. A minor conundrum remains, quoting:

*"Curiously, in my copy (90.1 2007) economisers are not required for
1b (table G3.1.2.6A).
However, the following table (G3.1.2.6B) denotes that economiser high limit
shutoff should be 75degF for 1b."*
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Chris

On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Jim Dirkes <
jim at buildingperformanceteam.com> wrote:

> Correct.****
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> *James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP**
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> *From:* Chris Yates [mailto:chris.malcolm.yates at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 7:08 AM
> *To:* Jim Dirkes
> *Cc:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Bldg-sim] economiser for climate zone 1****
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> Thanks Jim,****
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> So your understanding is that a mixing box still exists, but the control
> that varies outdoor air rate doesn't exist. It is in effect a fixed outdoor
> air rate.****
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> ??****
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> Many thanks****
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> Chris****
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> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Jim Dirkes <
> jim at buildingperformanceteam.com> wrote:****
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> Chris,****
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> More warm weather  = less available cooling from outdoor air = less
> justification for spending money to install economizer controls.****
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> p.s., You must provide minimum outdoor air for ventilation, but need not
> also cool with outdoor air****
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>  ****
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> *James V Dirkes II, PE, BEMP, LEED AP**
> **www.buildingperformanceteam.com*<http://www.buildingperformanceteam.com/>
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> **Energy Analysis, Commissioning & Training Services**
> *1631 Acacia Drive, Grand Rapids, MI 49504 USA
> 616 450 8653****
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>  ****
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> *From:* bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org [mailto:
> bldg-sim-bounces at lists.onebuilding.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Yates
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:36 AM
> *To:* bldg-sim at lists.onebuilding.org
> *Subject:* [Bldg-sim] economiser for climate zone 1****
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> Is it just me, or is does it seem terrifically wasteful that a climate 1
> building doesn't require an economiser? Or am I missing something?****
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> KR / Chris****
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