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[EnergyPlus_Support] Re: Humidity




I guess I was not able to expound my equestion well. What I meant 
was how I can get the TRANSPORT energy for the vehicle which brings 
outside air to the indoor environment. I.e. a fan in the Fresh Air 
Unit(FAU) or whatever . Anyhow outside mixer has to cost something 
taking air from outside, while it seems not be considered as far as 
I know.
Not the energy use after outside air has been in the space.

Eric

--- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte" 
<mjwitte@g...> wrote:
>
> The best available approach is to run a second simulation with the 
outside air 
> flow rate set to zero.  The difference in energy consumpiont 
between the two 
> simulations will reflect the net change in energy use required to 
condition 
> outside air.  Remember that outside air can be beneficial on mild 
days.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On 2 Dec 2005, at 1:35, hbn_pch wrote:
> 
> > Eric,
> >    In reality,there is no variable to report the energy 
consumption 
> > by the outside air system.If you want to gain the value,you 
should 
> > use the total energy consumption subtract the fancoil energy 
> > consumption.
> >    It's my suggestion.Good luck.
> > 
> >    pch
> > 
> > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "eric_zhou1223" 
> > <eric_zhou1223@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your response, Mike. 
> > > 
> > > There is another question. How can I consider the energy 
> > consumption 
> > > by the outside air mixer in a fancoil system? I didnot found 
there 
> > > is a variable in the simulation result which is responsigble 
for 
> > the 
> > > electricity use of transporting the fresh air into the indoor 
space.
> > > As far as I know, that would be a pretty significant part in 
the 
> > > HVAC system's energy consumption. Likewise, in the VAv system, 
> > there 
> > > exists a similar problem, what would be end user for 
introducing 
> > > outdoor air? The central fan in the AHU?
> > > 
> > > Eric
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In EnergyPlus_Support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Michael J. Witte" 
> > > <mjwitte@g...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  I suspect that the window AC is running with cycling fan 
while 
> > > the other 
> > > > systems are continuous fan.  Make the the window ac objects 
(AIR 
> > > > CONDITIONER:WINDOW:CYCLING and 
> > > COIL:DX:CoolingBypassFactorEmpirical) are set to 
> > > > continuous fan (ContFanCycComp).
> > > > 
> > > > Mike
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 30 Nov 2005, at 14:49, eric_zhou1223 wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >  Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > >     With  thermostats control in some zones, I noticed a 
> > > windowAC 
> > > > > system can achieve a notablly lower relative humidity than 
a 
> > > fancoil 
> > > > > system or the whole-air system in summer days. Given that 
all 
> > > other 
> > > > > conditions are kept the same, i,e.,cooling capacity, 
building 
> > > > > discriptions, supply air design condition,and so forth.  
Is 
> > this 
> > > result 
> > > > > reliable? If yes , what would be the reason?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you .
> > > > > 
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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